Medellin Women: Rules of the Game

The following is a guest post by Marcello Arrambide.

My current around the world trip has led me to the booming city of Medellin, Colombia.

I have been living in Medellin now for a full week and while there is always a game when it comes to men and women, the dynamic is much different in Medellin (and all of Colombia).

First, let me start off by saying that the Medellin women are not pretty, they are gorgeous.

After you read this post I would encourage you to see the pics of Colombian Models (tempting isn’t it?).

If you ask most men and women (even Colombians), they will gladly say that the most beautiful women come from Medellin and Cali.

When I first arrived in Medellin, my neck was sore from looking left and right at all the beautiful women on the streets.

By the time the day was over, I didn’t bother looking at most of the women because I knew there would be more on the next street.

Beauty is not hard to find in Colombia, but what about everything else?

Disclaimer: This is not all women in Colombia but my impression of most of them in the first week that I have been here.

Battle Between Women

On more than one occasion I have noticed that there is a fierce competition between Medellin women.

As soon as two women meet each other they resentfully check each other out, starting with the shoes of course.  They ask each other questions to which they don’t care what the answer is and put up with each other when they have to.

Colombian culture is based heavily on appearance which is why it is one of the plastic surgery capitals of the world; nose jobs, liposuction, boob jobs, and yes, even butt jobs. Hard Buns anyone?

Don’t Be Shy

In most parts of the world women are very shy.  They do not make the first move and always expect the men to do the first approach.

There are always exceptions, the only places I have been where the women are very forward and aggressive (they approach first) are in New York City and Europe.

Medellin women are not forward, but they let you know very clearly what they want.

If you are out at a bar or club they will go out of their way to make eye contact and keep doing so until you approach them.

Once you approach they have a way of endearing themselves to you very quickly.

They often use words and phrases that make the manliest of men want to turn a Colombian into a housewife (kidding.. kind of).

They not only charm you with their words, they also are extremely affectionate.

Women are very approachable so there is no need to let your insecurity control you. If you like a woman, go up and talk to her, there’s a 90% chance she’ll like your company.

First Dates & Gender Roles

The debate is out there whether you should kiss on the first date or not.  In Colombia, every women that I have asked says that kisses on the first date don’t usually happen.

What they don’t mention is that if you have white skin, light eyes, and are considered as Gringo as a Ford F-150, then you will kiss on the first date.  If you didn’t know, Gringo is King in Colombia.

Colombian women are very old fashioned.

They are not going to be interested in you if you consider a first date to include romantic music in the back seat of your car.  They expect to be taken out and shown a good time.

This could include a dinner, lunch, and even a Paisa’s (paisa = person from Medellin) favorite, salsa dancing.

Disclaimer: They don’t strive to be Beyonce “independent women” status in Medellin, women are very old fashioned and expect you to pay.  Yes that includes their taxi ride home.

Calls & Texts

Most people in Colombia have prepaid cell phones.

They load their phones with credit to use text messages and make phone calls.

What you don’t know is that no one ever has any credit.

Don’t get excited when you get a girls phone number because there is no sexting (text sex).

When you send a woman a text, she won’t respond…that costs money.

If she calls you, she will hang up right away because that costs money.

The best way to interact is via old fashioned phone calls, or my personal favorite, MSN Messenger (and increasingly, Facebook or Skype).

Style

The climate in Medellin is almost the same throughout the entire year. Medellin is located near the Equator, and also is in a valley which contributes to the constant Spring-like climate.

Women are usually dressed in jeans whenever they go out.  Sandals are also a no-no unless, you want to be considered a tourist in Medellin.

[Editor’s Note: check out A Woman’s Guide to the Medellin Look for more commentary on ladies fashion here.]

So there you have it ladies and gentlemen! Rules of the game presented to you by a person who has only been here a week!  If you don’t believe any of the things in this article I would encourage you to visit Medellin.

My first week has been nothing short of amazing and I can’t wait to share my thoughts on the bustling city once my time is up.

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About the Author: Marcello has been working for freedom his entire life. He’s unlocked the secret through day trading and now wanders the world.  He has lived in 7 countries spanning 3 continents and has even visited the elusive Antarctica.  You can find him on his blog, Wandering Trader, Twitter @Wanderingtrad and Facebook.

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Comments

  1. I’ve never been to Medellin, but the women in Cartagena were definitely the most beautiful I’ve ever seen, and like you said have an amazing way of letting you know they’re interested just by using their eyes. Great story!

  2. nicktherobber says:

    Congratulations – same old hackneyed, sexist rubbish about Colombian women – only this post transcends the usual with its mind numbingly banal generalisations about women as a whole

    “In most parts of the world women are very shy”

    For someone who calls himself the Travelling Trader you really need to get out more

  3. Nick, thats why the post is about women in medellin, not all colombian women as whole. And for the average female, yes women are very shy, and they wont come up to you out of the blue to start a conversation
    Greenglobaltravel: They do the same in medellin!

    • I agree. How many women have approached you, compared with how many times you get approached?

    • dude you have to be a colombiana male. if anything the gringo is laughing at the colombian men. they cant take care of their own children, they beat their girlfriends, they cant keep their hands off anyone other than their own woman. i have spent five years traveling to colombia for business and i personally have encountered many beautiful, sexy, and nice women. sure there are the bad apples and sure there are those who would rather be taken care of by a man than do any work. in general they are gorgeous, passionate, and very loyal. it helps if you can speak fluent spanish. dont kid yourself on that

  4. Interesting post, I thought it was a post on Naughty Nomad when it came across my Google Reader!

  5. Really enjoyed the read. It is funny how radically different cultures can be from one place to another. Just because women aren’t shy doesn’t mean they’re not old fashioned, and in other places women might be shy, but don’t have the same “old fashioned” beliefs about going further once they warm up to you. Also appreciate the very city specific read on this. Happy travels and I look forward to reading more!

  6. Great post!

    I’m an American too and will be heading down to Medellin for some Columbian tushy later this year

    See you there

    • I have both lived and worked in Colombia. The women are awsome. Not like american women who no longer will commit to marriage and family….and have lost all morals and values.
      Colombian woman are not necesarilly looking to go to the states. The are just looking for happiness, wheather is in Colombia or elsewhere. They are beautiful, especially in Medellin and Cali. Medellin is my preference. Bogata is a close second, and does overal have more to offer.

      It is true, the women are old fashion, and you do have to make the first move. Just say “Hola”, and immedately, the woman will take over the conversation from there. Yes, it is that easy. I never failed to have a girlfriend on each trip I ever took or had in Colombia. The other thing that is true, is you should learn some spanish…it will open a new world.

      One last note; all my friends who ever married a Colombian or latin woman, ALL have very sucessful marriages. I will Never marry an american woman again. I’m tired of being cheated on by american women who can no longer stay faithful.

      Good luck….start learning spanish!… Airjnk

  7. If you find yourself with a girl who doesn’t have the money for a taxi, you are setting the bar pretty low, and probably going out with a poor barrio girl, hot but pretty boring. I’ve lived in Medellin for 4 years now, game up and go after quality! Also, the girls pictured here are probably in the 10% that will not enjoy your company if you come up to them, especially if you don’t speak spanish (can’t stress that point enough).

    • I’m curious as to where you are meeting the quality girls you speak of? Are there particular bars or clubs you frequent (ie. the more expensive ones)? Or are you meeting them through an extended network of Colombian friends?

      • I’m paisa and I really hated some parts of this article. Not all the girls are old fashioned, they’re just very smart and know you tourist guys will spend money on going out on a date or something… Women here are very responsible and go out for a dance in order to relax, not to find a dumbass tourist who thinks gringo means king (it means you’re from other country and we all can tell because of your sandals and looking how you just get out of bed!!) Girls you’ve met and do that are “prepago” or yes, a barrio girl who even if she has money, will have you paying for everything. You should try meet people here in a Theatre or mall, and see the difference… then you’re more than welcome to write something like this “women rules” stuff in my city >.<

        • Agree

          Medellin is FULL of MAZING WOMAN, I’ve never had one ask me for anything.. and my Amiga’s often put up a fight for me to buy them lunch

          All these men who complain bout the woman here are just ididots who came to a 3rd world country flashing their money to draw in woman thinking their kings when really their talking shit behind his back and enjoying free drinks, I never brag about my money or job here and woman treat me just like their own men, ill buy them a cheap beer that’s it.

          lmao gtfo money flashers!

    • Tom Carberry says:

      I am looking for lots of info about medellin and friend world be good to star i wil be there in June

    • can you skype me i need good info opticguard

    • I understand that you currently live in Medillin and wonder if you can help me. I currently live in Panama city after living a year in Bocas Del Toro and now living here, I am tired of Panama as a whole and I am considering on moving to Columbia.I am retired Canadian military and have a pension to live on. Would you recommend that city and if so could you please contact me so I can get a few ideas off of you before moving there next month. My email is waswiser@hotmail.com Thank you in advance. I plan on moving there at the end of October 2012.. Thanks again..

  8. Pogopop: This has nothing to do about setting the bar pretty low, whether they can afford the taxi or not, that is the expectation. I have met a lot of women in Medellin and its not just from the barrios, the most do expect that but not all of them

    • I guess each has their own but the bar I set reads as follows – Normally if they don’t have a car, or a way of taking care of their own transportation, I am not interest. I don’t want to be with a woman who rides the bus. On that note, I’m not the “nicest” guy with the ladies, for example I once turned my back to a girl on Calle 10 in Poblado when she asked me for cab fare (it was our first date). Turns out she had it, and stranger still we wound up hooking up that night. The point – beware the generalizations, you’ve got to read each girl as their own.

      Dave – Colombian friends yes, sometimes. Pricey clubs and restaurants, not necessarily. For me it is about observing how people present themselves (dress, language, body language, the friends she is surround with, how intelligent she is, etc.) Also, note my refrain for spelling out exactly where to “mingle”.

      great thread

  9. I’d add the gorgeous paisa chicks aren’t stuck up at all because beauty is so common there.

    “Pick your furniture like you pick a wife; it should make you feel comfortable and look nice, but not so nice that if someone walks past it they want to steal it.” – Shit My Dad Says. But maybe I’m cynical?

    • I take it for granted now, but the lack of stuck-upness with the girls is something I noticed immediately upon arrival.

  10. check out the Davalos twins (Colombian) on youtube, type “hermanas Davalos”, that’ll show you how hot these colombian girls can be. These twins were born in the States to Colombian parents and then were brought back when they were still little. You’ll get better results typing “hermanas Davalos” instead of the Davalos twins. Enjoy.

    Other Colombian models/actresses to check out on youtube:

    Mujeres de Colombia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH7yTraF_oY
    Ana Sofia Henao
    Maria Fernanda Yepes
    Carolina Cruz, look up Carolina cruz fashion Tv
    Natalia Paris
    Lina Marulanda
    Adriana Arboleda, retired and mature but still Hot
    Ana Lucia Dominguez (actress):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJPnVhUzkN0&playnext=1&list=PLC415983B1D90247A

    Zharik Leon

    There’s more but I don’t know their names, enjoy.

  11. Here in medellin girls always have money to go out and have fun, that means they also have money for taxi, but the fact is they don’t pay anything if they’re in a “date” (clubbin, dancing,drinking, etc) and doesn’t matter if you’re local or foreigner but when they are in girls night (just girfriends) they are big spenders ;), but these girls nights are just an excuse to know men in the club.

    however medellin is such a nice place with gorgeous women and nice people

    everybody is invited here you’ll have the time of your life ;)

  12. Gamin Gringo says:

    I’ve lived in Medellin for over a decade. Retired at 45 down there. I know very few paisa women that have money to go out and pay for a cab, less have a car – unless they were a university educated professional where they usually werent as good looking or perhaps they had a traqueto novio, where you better watch your arse! Usually a typical girl will take your cab-fare offer and then wait for you to get into your cab so they can run off to a bus or the metro to pocket the difference. Also realize if you are 45+ and going out with a 18 year old (or 60+ say with a 22 year old, etc!) , stop thinking it is because she likes you. It is simply because you are her meal ticket. Man up and deal with it. Even if they did have a job, USD$250/mo. salary “minimo” doesn’t go too far. They know king gringo has plata, even if he is a loser by US standards making 30k a year, because that is more than a typical colombian woman. Now, I like to stay away from Lleras, Barrio Colombia, Las Palmas, La 33, Mangos, Sabaneta because there were too many gringos. I could have stayed in the states to see more gringos. I always hook up in Dona Clarita, Parque Aranjuez, Parque Itagui, and LOVE the centro bars. Parque San Antonio, Barrio Boston, La Playa, the area surrounding Colombo Americano, It’s not for everyone. But I like the edge. I sometimes walk there and/or even walk home 3 miles from the centro at 2am like a nut just for the exercise. I have to keep the ticker ticking! So you must know the women are BIVA! Simply choose how much you will let them take advantage. I always let them get away with a little, 10 or 20 mil for a cab, sure even if you take the bus or metro. I dont care. but many guys come down and blow thousands of dollars because “mi mamita esta enferma” and they fall for it. sigh! You want Old Parr? I would just be the man and say, no nena Ron Medellin o guaro esta bien. If you really are interested in a girl but you are not sure if she is into you or just your wallet, Plan a big night out and then either when she arrives or a half hour before, call and say your back went out so say let’s just go to a local bar/parche (e.g. 22 mil a media type dive bar) and say you just want to get some empanadas or a burger or chuzo off the street and listen to music. If she says sure, she’s a keeper. Now, If she really needs clothes, and you want to help her out, you can get her jeans for 30 to 50 mil. Blusas for 10 to 40 mil. If she says, no, Studio F!…RUN! Now, even if not to partake in the action, La Mayorista on the Itagui/Medellin border has the coldest 2 mil beers with the best “view” in town. Take the metro to Ayura and walk 7 minutes towards Av Guayabal. For 40 mil, you can go upstairs with a hottie. There are really nice girls in Medellin. My favorites are from Robledo, Or above Boston or Manrique or Buenos Aries. They are just cool, laid back girls. Also I am a normal looking guy. No hottie. Im 5 foot 10 in my mid 50s with a few extra pounds, thin hair and yet because I speak spanish and have a nice personality, Just about any girl on the street, even young ones, that I strike up a conversation with, will give me their phone numbers and go out with me. It can be a playground. Can be dangerous. Have seen people shot, robbed and drugged so please be careful. Thankfully I have built up some cred with the locals and they dont f with me. The final advice: Girls here are really appreciative of the truth. Tell them that you go out with other girls when the situation arises that you would normally have had to dance around. They accept it and will trust you more…and sometimes because of it, they will work harder in the bedroom to keep you!

    • Thanks for sharing your experience, feedback, and recommendations.

      I agree that if a girl is cool just going out for a beer and empanadas, she’s a keeper, though I went out with one of those last year and thought it was awesome that she wasn’t asking for money, only to find out later that she was still in a relationship with an old American boyfriend (who was the one doing the supporting).

    • I throughly enjoyed your post, it was very informative. As I plan on visiting Medelin. However, I am somewhat troubled. I have been told by many associates that Colombian women only like blue-eyed gringos, and from your post it seems to varify that fact. I am a well-educated, atheletic black American male. I love what I have read about Colombia…and of course the women…I know a no-brainer. Even as I look at the photos of the club, I see no minorities. Is Colombia a racist place? I lived in Brasil for three years and had the time of my life, as well as, eleven other countries. I want to go to Colombia something fierce…am I in for a rude awakening, please advise.

      • Hey Chris, I don’t have a good answer for you I’m afraid.

        Yes, I do believe racism exists in Colombia, as it does in most countries. But I don’t know to what degree.

        Colombia is very diverse, and skin tones vary by region. There are many more black people on the Caribbean coast, and in Cali, then in Medellin, where from my experience living here, they’re few and far between (please note, I spend a great deal of my time in Poblado, so there might be other parts of the city with a different ethnic make-up).

        To test the waters, I’d suggest you try contacting some women through the popular online dating sites, like http://colombiancupid.com (pay site) or http://badoo.com (free).

        • Christopher says:

          David,

          Thank you so much for your swift response, and your candor, it is greatly appreciated. After reading and watching a video from Jesse Charger…according to Jesse…I think Cali is my place. He wrote that “In Cali, that means a pretty face, cinnamon color skin, a plump ass, athletic body, and breast implants. The black man’s “kriptonite” (plump ass), is top priority.

          Again, I want to thank you for all the work that you do, as well as, the passion you have for Colombia. Last question, are there any blogs or websites such as yours that I can go to and learn bout Cali? Is Cali dangerous, meaning bombings, and FARC?

          Thank you very much

          Christopher

          • Cali is considered a bit more dangerous than Medellin, and I do think the FARC is more active in that region. But I visited for 2 long weekends last year and had no worries.

            The best resource is Colombia Reports, an English news site that has reports from around the country on current events. This is where you’ll get the unvarnished info about Colombia….so take it with a grain of salt, and don’t let it scare you off.

            http://colombiareports.com

      • Hey Chris I wouldn’t go as far as saying it is a racist place because that would imply that they treat people a certain way, but I would say that they don’t like black people. They won’t treat you in a bad way because most people have manners but in terms of Colombian standards in Medellin, white is better.

      • colombian is not a racist place, the point is… we like what is different for us, it´s the reason we feel special atraction about white skin, green o blue eyes, it´s because we are not like that, anyway there are some people who likes black skin and dark eyes. it´s the same when we go abroad, when i do i notice that more guys stare at me in a special way, i guess they feel this curiosity of someone different. ít´s what happens in colombia.

        • It also happens in Peru, as I’m finding out. I’ve been told by more than one Peruvian girl that they like my white skin, which is so odd to hear, because in the US, people prefer to be tan (especially the women who go to great lengths and expense using tanning salons).

        • PapiGringo says:

          Well Iam a white guy and you can trust me for some men its just about physical (sexual) attraction.

          I would have to admit, I like the big butts of Latin women, its evolutionary and I would want this as part of a healthy relationship (getting kids)

          I know however, that most women arent so physically attracted to men but emotionally, white men are known to be very sensual and careful and I know Latin women want to be treated sensual. (black men are more rough and straight forward)

      • Cristopher, Colombia is not racist! Lots of brothers in Medellin and the ladies do like a well built brother, specially if he is american! Go and have a good time but be careful, there are place people should not go. I am from Medallo but live in the US. Looking forward to moving back in the next couple of years?

    • Hands down, the best post I’ve read on this blog. I envy you, you got to live the life that I saw when I first arrived for a long weekend almost 8 years ago. Now its posers and chumps all looking for same illusion. Good news is that if everyone keeps coming the MDE – they won’t be going to (and spoiling) the next great place…..at least for a while.

    • Hey! Gamin Gringo
      Really enjoyed you comments, I know Bogota quite well. I’m 54, blonde 6’3 and a couple of extra pounds. Would love to here more from ya! Jim in Manizales..

    • Hi gamin gringo,
      I am older and retired, but travelin with minimal Spanish. Your letter really scares me. I just want to checkout the Medellin area and see the people. If you could help direct me to someone who could interpret and direct my 1 week visit it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave

    • Ben Jenkins says:

      hey gamin gringo,Im Ben,a recently retired and divorced fireman from Fl.Do you still live there?Im fluent in Spanish and would like to meet you for some advice.How do I contact you aparte de esta pagina.

    • Great information and advice…I’m planning to retire to Medellin…or at least have a second home there away from the US.

  13. I find your article lacking information, superficial and full of assumptions that I do not think will help you do anything worth doing.

    I am a Colombian who lived in Europe for 10 years. I was born in the UK but grew up in Medellin, then left at 17 and came back.

    I think being a foreigner in Medellin is a very difficult thing, and unless you acquire some understanding of the social situation here -at a human level not just some silly figures-, you will be a Gringo all your time here. What is a gringo? A gringo is someone everyone wants to get something from, money, favours, help, money. A gringo is someone nobody cares for as a human being, but as a potential source of something nobody has.

    I have seen many foreigners here really try and create honest relationships with locals and find it hard. I have to confess seeing perfectly well-intentioned locals be very attracted to foreigners at the beginning but soon after they see what foreigners can offer they lose interest.

    The problem is that this is a society where a large portion of people is sick trying to get money to even just pay their basics. I once took a girl to a restaurant, and she had never been to one. That night was very significant for her, a lot more than I could have thought.
    So if you offer the possibility of being able to afford doing something a girl has never done here, of ending the constant struggle to get money (which is wrong) for her and her family, you will find crowds of women who will even convince themselves they love you. This is the reason why I keep seeing beautiful young girls with disgusting, ill business men who could be their dads.
    Not only this does not last, it is also founded on the wrong basis. For me, it is not much different to paying for sex, and I consider it a form of prostitution.

    Regarding dating, I think there is no greater pleasure for a man, and it should always be what I look for, than deserving the girl you go out with, winning her love with the qualities of your soul, loving her essence and seeing people´s faces reflect that. Even if it is just for one night.
    You know something is right when you walk with a woman and people look as if they were saying: damn. what a beautiful couple.
    Once a friend said to me when he saw me dancing with my exgirlfriend: you look like you are the man. She loves you mate.

    Many things are wrong here. Colombians are not the happiest people as statistics will have you believe.
    I am very sorry for foreigners who come here and find locals who just want to show them silicon tits in El Parque Lleras and the house where Pablo Escobar was killed.

    Good day.

    • Hi Nico,

      Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. It’s true, Marcello’s guest post was based on experiences from just his first week in Medellin.

      It’s also true that in Colombia (as with many other developing nations, especially in Asia) gringos are seen as a ticket to a better life, be it in Europe, the USA or somewhere else. If there’s a way around that reality, it would have to be through knowing the language fluently and learning about the society and customs as you said. Otherwise there’s too much room for the man to be fooled.

      • This type of “love the white foreign guy (or black guy, Asian etc)” for the riches they can supposedly bring is a common developing world phenomena… then again in some places I have lived (Japan, Thailand, Morocco, Hungary, Romania etc) MANY of the local women get treated like shit by their men and hence they go for foreigners to “escape their lot” and in other places like Dubai, Kiev, Medellin and Las Vegas there are many broads who just want a few dollars and a nice meal and decent life be it supplied by a fat white guy or other/s with the money to spend.. not just a Colombian thing but a world wide phenomena

        In particular Nico, in many cultures “fat old disgusting men” try to buy their women and in MOST places it works… then again some of us “old guys” are attractive, charming, witty, worldy, educated and some younger women (even in Medellin) just like our company…. Personally, I prefer women my age or thereabouts, even older, sex is just as good and they may even know a few Beatles/Stones/Who albums….

        My initial impressions in Colombia were very similar to what was written on the blog, but I find in general if one knows how to read people and form friendships over the long run then all is good…. Generally, I find Paisas to be quite charming people… I just avoid groups of women with men and groups in general and/or I go out by myself most of the time. The amount of plastic fantastics here would match Orange County, LA, NY and Vegas combined though and the sight of 18+ year old women totally “MADE-UP” by plastic surgery is a sad sight indeed.. then again it is all a competition and if the surgeries net them a nice man… well no harm done.

        Interesting though that the places which use racist terms like “Kwailo, Gaijin and Gringo” are the places where women seem to go after me the most… go figure, but Nico not every (as you call them) “Gringo” is a fool or is even unaware of the game being played to use them.. sometimes said “Gringo” is really playing the meta-game to get what he wants… if he spends a few $$$, no biggie. I know plenty of “Gringoes” who are really laughing at you all..

        Still as my late dear Nanna said, “Treat everyone the way you want to be treated”… seems to be great advice in any culture.

    • Hi Nico,

      I have been living in Medellin now for 4 months and I still feel that the content in this article are all correct. Gringo is King because of the illusion that we all have money. In the past many gringo’s have come and paid for everything which in accordance with the illusion of money it makes them think that we should pay for everything.

      My whole thing is that it should not be expected just because of that. I have met many women in Medellin that pay their own taxis. I am more than happy to pay for things but not when they expect. If a girl asks me to pay her taxi I say no especially if i just met her. If she doesn’t like it.. on to the next one.

      If you would like Nico I would love for you to point out where I am wrong in the article. From your reply it sounds like I am dead on.

      -marcello

    • Excellent post Nico,I am an American married to a Calena for 9 years I am 50 she is 30.I went to Barranquilla,and Cali untill I met her . Wonderfull mother for our children and loyal to me,even though she is drop dead gorgeous with all the attributes of a Calena.

      The age difference is not so great with us I am tall and handsome .she is tall and handsome we are both white and dont look odd together.Old fat white guys should just stick to the red light district and not make fools of themselves .Of course its about the money hello! If you are seeking a lifemate be realistic.

      One point people keep making which I dont agree,paisas are the most beutifull .I beleive chicas de la valle are more beutifull buenas suerte

    • Well put Nico. I see the same here in Panama and yet over the past 6 years coming here and living here the past year and a half I have gotten to know a lot of the locals as true friends and family. Who take me out to drink and feed me when it is not expected of them. A person cannot expect to go into a place be rude and flash money and be respected for it.

  14. Nico , sounds like you lose a lot of women to gringos ! I would say that women wih out money or women in general try to date up or look for guys with money . Sorry but that is just the way the world works . Prostitution is prostitution but not every girl with an older guy is a prostitute . I do feel bad for the younger colombian guys because for the most part they have no chance against expats in the dating world .

    • Hahahahahah they do have a chance. There is plenty of fish in the sea for them, for us girls and even you Rob. Competitiveness improves quality.

  15. The whole part about girls being so beautiful and easy is bullshit. In Medellín, Women don’t like to be seen with gringos, just like in Cartagena. Too many sex tourists. It’s not as it used to be 20 years ago. In Bogota and small towns like Pereira or bigger like Bucaramanga, the dating situation is much better for foreigners

    • Hola Grant, thanks for reading. I’ve been on my share of dates in Medellin since 2009 and have never felt that the women I’ve gone out with are uncomfortable with my company. I’ve gone out to bars and clubs from Envigado to Niquia, in addition to a few dates in other places like Cartagena, Santa Marta and Cali.

      Yes, some of them may be self-conscious of being perceived as a prepago, especially if they are much younger, but seriously, not an issue for me and my friends thus far in Medellin (we’re in our 20’s and early 30’s). I do agree that the dating scene may be easier in medium-sized cities where there are fewer foreigners (and prostitution isn’t as pervasive).

    • Hi Grant,

      i would have to disagree with you. Any time we go out the whiter and taller guys always get the attention. They are always very welcoming and open at the club or even at the mall. I think you may have been speaking about other cities in Colombia or perhaps a certain part of a city in maybe Cartagena (the capital of prostitution in Colombia).

  16. nonofurbsns says:

    How come Gringo means King?

    If you didn’t know, you are seen as quite naive people in Medellin, and the women you usually meet wouldn’t be the same as a local would like to meet.

    How so?

    Ask yourself what sort of women do foreign guys get to meet in your own country or city, not the kind a friend would introduce them, nor the kind they might meet at work…. but the kind they would meet in a night out.

    Yes, that kind, the kind you don’t really want for yourself in your home town, because you can do better than that… (there’s exceptions of course).

    Almost every colombian i know has a better education than most ‘gringos’ i know, are better looking, and all that, but they would treat you with respect, and as they traditionally do, they’d try to make you feel home, they are proud of their country, and they want you to enjoy it.

    But definitely, DEFINITELY, they still think they are way better than you are, and i can tell you for sure, you are no king for them.

    That is i think the reason why you are so disliked in the rest of the world an even in Medellin (some people are not interested in your money so they do not pretend to like you), because if you don’t feel hated, then you must be a king!!!

    I should know, i’m from Medellin, and well i came across your article…
    Even for someone from the U.S, a week was quite soon to declare yourself a king, mate!

    I don’t have anything against ‘gringos’, but really thÍS guy ‘ROB’ who said ‘Nico , sounds like you lose a lot of women to gringos ‘ actually sounds like he’s been asked for money after he thought he had chatted up a girl in here… and that is just because unless a Gringo became part of a social group, (friends, from work, etc>>) there’s actually no chance than even the humblest guy would lose a woman he wants to a gringo…
    those are just facts, i live here, i’ve known guys from N.Z for example, doing not so bad, because they’re with someone local. Also, every night out i get to see Gringos walking with a smile on their faces, by the hand of a woman everyone would be embarrassed to be seen with (because she’s obviously a prostitute or may be she’s just really ugly)…But well that’s pretty funny so i’ll leave it there, besides it’s a good thing that you find even our ugliest women beautiful. cheers for that.
    Can’t wait to go to the U.S to become a latin king.
    EVERY woman in there wants a Latino because gringos are all fat!!!
    (my friend’s been ther for about a week, he told me that, so must be truth!)

    Wicked!

    • Hi nonofurbsns,

      Gringo means king because in a Colombian’s world, gringos (americans or germans or any foreigners mainly that are tall with blond hair) mean money and a way out for most people.

      Even though you can meet any kind of woman in Medellin the girls that expect you to pay for everything and ask to pay for your taxi up front are just looking for money or a good time. That’s obvious. There are plenty of women like that in the US and across Europe it just isn’t as visibly seen because the culture in western societies is different. I in no way stated that these are the kinds of girls that you want to date as you say, that would be up to the person.

      I never stated that Colombians didn’t have manners, were not better looking, nor that they do not treat you with respect. Just because a girl asks you for taxi money and expects you to pay does no signify any of these things.

      I think that you may be taking the statement “gringo is king” out of context. It by no means not they think that Americans are better than them, Colombians happen to be a very proud people. I grew up with many of them and even the women that grew up the states prefer white American men. Gringo is King simply means that if a women had a choice between a Colombian man and an American man. They would choose the American. There have been countless times where we have gone and we find out that the girl someone was “getting intimate with” had a boyfriend.

      But again it by no means signifies that Colombian’s think that Americans are better than them as you are implying. I would have to disagree with you in that respect because that is not the intention of the post. You are taking my statements and misconstruing them. There are people that don’t feel the same way about gringo’s but with my experience living here 4 months now and speaking from the countless talks I have had with other gringo’s that have lived here for a while I think you are mistaken that most Colombian’s are embarrassed to be with gringos. That may be just your group of friends.

      American women do like Latin men more than American men but not because American’s are fat, its simply because its a different style of life. Due to the standard of living unless you have an
      absorbent amount of money I’m sorry to tell you wont be a Latin king.

      Cheers

      -marcello

      • You sound like some cat born with a silver spoon in his mouth, know it all. You aren’t Colombian dude. And neither am I. But I can assure you and you haven’t asked because you’re too nieve; but MOST if not ALL Colombian WOMEN, prefer “Moreano” men. U probably do pay the Colombian women or trick up money to get there attention. If it was u and me in a club scene ANYWHERE in Colombia, I would pull 2-4 times the women u would…free of charge!

      • I doubt that for one simple reason. There are over a million Colombians living in the USA. Most of those Colombians stick to Latino boyfriends. The same is true here in London where there are approx 150k Colombians.

        If the girl is basing her decision on money then yeh she’ll choose whoever has more money but those women aren’t worth your time. A woman will choose a man based on his personality, sense of humour, values. Who do you think is more likely to share that a Colombian/ Latino or an American?

    • I meant well said, nonofurbsns.

  17. Totally agree with the last post.

    Gringo is not king in Medellin.

    I think a gringo used to be king in Medellin 15 years ago like he still is in some parts of Colombia (not Cali or Cartagena)

    Now it’s the opposite in Medellin (but of course it is still better than the UK or the US :-)

  18. nonofurbsns says:

    All right WanderingTrader!
    got your point, i still disagree with you in certain matters but let’s leave it there…

    About that last statement i am very aware you are not all fat, i was just trying to make a point, and it is; don’t generalize like you did, there’s no way you could put an entire population or even a segment of it under the same description, no matter how good you think you know those people.

    There’s not such a thing as an absolute truth, so i cannot say you are absolutely wrong, but i can say you’re not absolutely right, and i hope you can get that.

    I still think i might have a chance to be a latin king, even though my looks are, as it is common in Medellin, the ones of a white boy!

    No absorbent amount of money, but a theory to try, i think i might be going to the U.S at the end of the year, i’ll tell you how the Latin King thing goes…

    it went pretty well at the U.K, wouldn’t proclame myself a king though, however they are one King short …

    Cheers!

  19. I just want to say that this entire posting page should be retitled, “Giggalo Gringos & how to get sex from Colombian women.” Que repugnante las conversaciones en esta pagina. Soy mujer y agredecia si ustedes podrian tener respecto por los que visitar a este sitio. Que pena!

    • Hi Cheryl, I feel like Marcello’s article is very respectful of (Colombian) women, and the language he used is as PG as you’re going to find on this subject.

      Is it really any different than the dating and sex advice women read in magazines like Cosmopolitan?

  20. guys on a serious note please advise me where in colombia is the best nightlife, im not tall white with blonde hair or any of that and nor am i looking to date chicks, i just want to know where is the best nightlife and where i can enjoy myself without being in a place full of ‘gringos’

    • There are tons of places to enjoy Colombian nightlife. There’s no way for me to answer such a vague question in these comments.

      For the small town experience, visit the pueblos on the weekend – Guatape and Jardin are two fun ones. Yes, you’ll see foreign tourists, but there will be many more Colombians visiting for the weekend, and it creates a fun atmosphere. In pueblos, the nightlife is centered around the main plaza so it’s not hard to find.

      In the big cities, like Bogota, Medellin and Cali, you’re best bet is to befriend locals who can tell you which neighborhoods to visit. These cities have tons of place you can go, but it helps if you can go out with a Colombian. One option is to meet them via Couchsurfing – http://couchsurfing.org — also a good way if you speak no Spanish. In Medellin, check out La 33 (a main avenue with a lot of bars and clubs), La 70 (smaller street with lots of salsa bars), or the area around Universidad de Antioquia (younger college crowd). This is just the tip of the iceberg.

  21. Medellín is a ball ache for meeting decent women as far as Colombia goes, and the influx of gringos there in recently years has only made the situation worse. The types of Paisas that gringos often encounter (generally speaking) are money grabbing drama queens with little life experience and jack all to talk about except shallow bimbo dribble. But the dumb pussy whipped gringo hangs about, draining his wallet in hope of just getting laid, not realising he could’ve spent less money and time on a prepago 5 times hotter than her. I’ve seen this happen to so many gringos. Colombian guys aren’t so dumb.

    The more well educated, professionally working ones are the exceptions. I’ve only dated one Paisa and she was of the latter category, hell she even has a new car. She couldn’t care a less about scabbing of a fella. Come to Bogotá and this type of mujer is the norm. Elsewhere in the country, the money grabbers are more likely to bang on the first or second date, so at least you get your money’s worth. A paisa wants to drain as much of your cash and attention as she can and holds the punani back like a rabbit being chased by a greyhound. People seem to forget the type of opportunistic culture that was born out of the escobar years.

    • “not realising he could’ve spent less money and time on a prepago 5 times hotter than her.”

      Just because sleeping with a prepago (prostitute) is cheap, doesn’t mean it’s what some (I’d even say most…deep down) guys are looking for.

    • “not realising he could’ve spent less money and time on a prepago 5 times hotter than her.”

      Big deal, I’m sure plenty of gringos realize they can have a hot prostitute for little dinero, just like they know this in Thailand or any developing nation.

      Most of my guy friends visiting and living in Medellin would rather meet girls the normal way, and go on dates, then pay for sex with a prepago. Prostitutes are simply the quick and easy answer for guys visiting a short time or without any Spanish.

  22. great info thanks!

  23. Honest Harry says:

    Good article based on insight from first week.

    But as has been mentioned gringo is not king. Given the influx of busted dudes crossing the border for prostitutes and cheap travelers on gear, it,s the complete opposite.

    Girls would rather go out with a Latino any day then be seen with a gringo and having her reputation tarnished.

    Girls do kiss on the 1st dat and further. Girls may say one thing but will do the complete opposite.

    • Harry I haven’t met one woman in Medellin that didn’t want to be seen with a gringo.. while there are people that do think this way I haven’t found one woman that thinks that way and I have hung out with both gringos and colombians

    • actually he should have said good looking smart gringos are king in Colombia that is true

  24. I´m from Medellin, i have lived here my entire life, i came to the site by coincidence but i felt curiosity to read what this blog says

    i guess you guys are quite worried about how to get a woman here.

    Let me tell you all the reality and what girls in Medellin think about all of you.

    First than all we are really charming, tender and passionate women, all we want in this world it´s find someone who loves us, unfortunately it´s too difficult to get,
    for one side we are more women than men in the city so it makes more complicate to find someone because men feel they can get as many women as they want to and we are use to it,
    it has turned in the wrong way and nowadays women compete each other to be the most beautiful to get what they want to, nowadays women feel society pressure to be beauty and it became a stereotype
    For all this we afraid of every guys that approach us because in our mind there is they want to have only fun. In this order we started to play the same game, sorry to say that but you foreigner are there
    .
    when I see foreigners I feel in them anxiety to find a women, how you stare us and behavior like flabbergasted to in a beauty women world. After that comes the money culture, it´s true that we expect that guys pay for us and it´s true that we expect that foreigners cover our expenses why because you only wanna have fun so we want the same and this is the game, you want sex, we know it, so we want to know how much you can stand in this game, my apologies for the guys who really want to find a partner.

    I´m telling this because it happened to me, I met my boyfriend in Medellin, he is foreigner, he came here for holidays and we spent time together, I didn´t feel pressure to do sth, everything came natural, he paid everything, (I don´t mean a taxi) I have a good quality of life and I don´t need someone to pay for me, I have my money but it was my proof after all that.. we felt in love and now I don´t care about money, I just like the way he is, the person he is, not what he has.

    However always will be exception in this world there are good girls and bad like you guys.
    take a look what kind of girls you are picking up, obviously if you catch a poor girls, she will never can afford to make plans with you and pay for it, but if you find a nice girl, educated, good social level, that girl don´t care much about money, even if you currency is higher than our, we have what we want without needs to ask someone else for it. check out where you visit and you will know what you will get there

    • Hola Clara, thanks for sharing your honest feedback as a paisa woman.

      I’ve found dating someone in a foreign culture is more complicated and confusing then if you were to date someone in your own country, but it can also be a lot more exciting.

    • Clara I couldn’t have said it best myself.. thanks for the valuable insight of a paisa woman

  25. I have travelled in about 50 countries. I am ready to find a stable partner but I would advise guys not to go to Medellin for that.

    In my experience, women there are the most unreliable, arrogant, superficial, flakey, cheating gold diggers I have ever met in my life.

    Besides their white (kind of Mongolian) looks with fake breasts don’t appeal too me much.

    When in Colombia, stick to Bogota guys

  26. Haha gringo is not KING homeboy, king is a paisa who moved to florida when he was 10 and visits medellin 3 times a year with perfect english and a nice tan ( that’d be me , the kid ) . Don’t flatter yourself

    • I don’t think the author of this guest post, Marcello, is flattering himself by suggesting gringo is king. Of course you’re free to disagree, but just so you know, he’s originally from Venezuela.

    • Juan.. I am not gringo and am not trying to flatter myself. If you are white skin you get a bit more attention thats just the way it is in Medellin.

  27. I fucked an adorable 20 year-old in El Centro (downtown Medellin) today for $15. I fucked two cute Colombian women in their 20s yesterday for $150, and another hottie is coming by at 9:30 for another $75.

    Guys, don’t worry about getting chicks in Medellin; its easier than anyplace in the states. Its easier for a regular shlub to get hotties in Medellin than it is for Derek Jeter to get hotties in New York. Who cares if they take money or not? They are adorable girls. I went to see Paul Van Dyk spin with one of them, made out with her and her friend, they both came back and slept in my bed, and we didn’t have sex -just a great time. All I paid for was the tickets, party favors, and such, just like any other date. Then she was one of the girls from yesterday. Women are women; probably half the hot chicks any of you have ever dated were hookers at one time and you just didn’t know it. I date hookers at home in Florida, too, in order to find girlfriends, and highly recommend it.

    Finally, the chicks here are hot. I like petite brunettes, and they are all over the place. They quite arguably are not as hot as the chicks in Florida, but they are no slouches, and you can easily fuck some 10s for $75 as part of a date lasting a few hours.

  28. Interesting read, i want to share my thoughts about some issues. I live now in the Philippines and lived for 2 years in Peru. And i’m a guy.

    First: finding a good girlfriend and build a solid relationship. This is equally difficult even in Belgium where I come from. It is in a way a matter of luck and attraction, hormones getting excited in both souls, that spark : Love. And it doesn’t matter if you are in Medellin, Lima, Brussels or Manila. And you need to be an expat. for if you are there for a holiday, falling in love is a real bad idea.

    Adding to this: short time visitors as they admit here do not mind paying for sex if they find a girl really attractive. This is simply how the world works. They can have sex with a girl they could never afford where they come from. This is not love, this is lust. And the girls playing that game know very well what they are doing, both parties sign the deal, money goes from one hand to the other and the show can begin.

    A problem for many people in countries like Peru, Colombia, Thailand or the Philippines IS money. Survival. As a girl working in a ‘gogo’ style bar in Manila adequately told me : “My body is the only thing is have to offer”

    On the other hand, no girl ever becomes a ‘prepago’ by accident. This is the end result of a string of events. No girl of 14 will ever say: “My biggest ambition is becoming a prostitute”. We men are for a big deal guilty to this change of heart because face it: we can be serious assholes when it comes to wanting to have sex with this or that girl. Even if we don’t realize the destructiveness of having a one night stand with them. My point being is we man scatter the secret wish of the girl for a woman will very seldom say: ‘I’m in love with you, i want you to be my boyfriend” It’s the nature of a woman to please the man she just fell in love with.

    And disillusions harden. I had some of my own and it hardened me. Although i still believe in romance i don’t want to fall in love ever again. I do have stable relationship in my turtle globetrotter wanderings. I plan to go to Colombia to live there a while and i wish to have a girlfriend there. No fucking around, been there, done that, it only leaves you with a hollow unsatisfied feeling like you did something wrong but you can’t pinpoint exactly what it is. We like to fool each others and then you get this outcome. Givers and takers and then the takers become givers in a flash, in a simple agreement : “ok, you want to sleep with me? no problem but it’s gonna cost you. I have the body you like, you have the money i need.”

    My girlfriend in Peru for 15 months till I left never paid for anything. She gave me her passion and body I wanted from her as a man. Could you call this a form of prostitution? I don’t see it that way. Outsiders may or very conservative people too. It is often foggy and a long term relationship or marriage for that matter between two totally different cultures seldom works. No matter in what country you end up. In my ring of friends I know very few intercountry marriages that actually work. The best is that the guy lives in her country and is not demanding, provides for everything and she takes care of the household. Then it works as this mutual agreement fits in the natural flow of Life. Long marriages are seldom run on the gasoline of Love, it runs on long-term agreement.

    • Hi Dimitri, thanks for your sincere and thoughtful comments. I find it particularly interesting what you say about your friends and their luck with intercultural marriages.

  29. @Dimitri: Intercountry marriages can work. The divorce rate between American men and foreign women is only 10%, versus more than half for all marriages. Perhaps they don’t work as well for Europeans because there are more prostitution outlets in Europe, and, perhaps as a result, the women may not be as friendly and approachable as Latin American and Southeast Asian women, but they are certainly more friendly and approachable than American women for the average guy. Perhaps that explains why marriages between American women and foreign women are so much more successful – we are content with a lot less. In fact, most American guys I know married to American women feel fortunate when their marriage is at least not a full-time living hell.

    Yes, one night stands cause heartbreak and mental anguish, but one night stands with prostitutes cause a lot less. Certainly, they can cause heartbreak – personally, I use dating prostitutes as my primary form of meeting a potential wife. That having been said, at least a prostitute walks away with money. Also, lets not flatter ourselves, plenty of times the prostitute is not at all interested in more of a relationship. I have pleaded with several prostitutes to date me more than just sex and they have refused. The real heartbreak for women – prostitutes or otherwise – is with guys they give it away free to who only want sex.

    The difference between your relationship and prostitution is that your relationship held out more hope for the girl that she would find a husband than a prostitute would have, and therefore the heartbreak you leave her with is worse.

    I her book, Dimitra Ekmektsis talks of how she wanted to be a prostitute from a young age. I know many young women in the United States who want to be porn stars, which is a prostitute having sex on camera. Of course, many women dream of being things other than prostitutes. Contrary to porn and prostitution, I am confident none of them dream of working in a factory, cleaning homes, working in some crappy convenience store, waiting tables in a greasy pit restaurant, or being a secretary.

  30. This whole conversations fails on the asumption that colombian guys are all dark skinned, in medellin most people living on poblado and lleras are light skinned, tall and many are white, they are also well educated and travel abroad all the time, girls living on these places will also choose these guys 1000 times before being seen with 40 yo old gringo who thinks he is a fu@@ing king

  31. Lance L'Amoure says:

    Hey guys. I hate to be modest. But, I am an absolute expert on dating women from Medellin and an expert on dating Colombian women in general. I think all of you will agree that Colombian women and Medellin women are some of the most beautiful women in the world. [link removed]

    I have a free Eletter on Dating Colombian Women available on my website. I bet I can help you with your dating of Medellin women.

    I have been going to Medellin for decades. In fact, a few years ago, I made a suggestion that changed Medellin for the better. I made a suggestion to the city that they close the streets entering Parque Lleras on weekend nights. I told them that is how they do it on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. They took my advice. We are all better off for it. Good luck!

    • Hey Lance, thanks for reading. I agree that the side streets being closed around Lleras on the weekends is a good move by the city.

      But, this isn’t the place (or way) to promote your dating site, so I removed those links.

  32. There’s a conspicuous lack of female feedback here, and just for the record if a girl doesn’t say hi to it’s not because she’s shy, it’s because she doesn’t want to.

  33. matthew b says:

    DirkJohanson is the man!

  34. DirkJohanson January 27, 2012 at 1:38 am #

    @Dimitri: Intercountry marriages can work. The divorce rate between American men and foreign women is only 10%, versus more than half for all marriages

    Dirk, just wondering where you got that statistic? Is the stat equal when you bring your Colombian wife back to the USA or Europe?

    Thanks,

    Tennispro

  35. I can’t find where I originally saw it. A comment at this link says 20%, not 10%, but I have not sourced it back.

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/relationships/1222443-divorce-rate-exponentially-higher-american-men.html

    it doesn’t detail what happens when you bring a Colombian wife back to the USA or Europe; my sense tells me its better to keep a Colombian wife in Colombia unless you are tall or very rich.

  36. After reading this whiole thread I’ve only learned a couple things. First, your a fool if you think you can figure women out. Any women from any country. Yes you can find a small demographic of woman that will behave similiar but they are all individuals none the less.

    2nd, if you are a foreigner in another country you are usually exoctic by nature. In Colombia having blue eyes or blonde hair or both may draw some attention from the woman. Just like the Antonio Banderas types get the looks from the ladies in the US. Having an accent and a different look will get your foot in the door many times. What the woman’s real intentions are though you may never know. If she asks for money well then you know. Women like foreigners but know you’re leaving so where is the upside for them. If you relocate that could change things. In my opinion women will stick witht the men from their own country for long term objectives and some are willing to play with the foreigners for short term objectives…usuallly money.

    I’ve made genuine friendships with a couple women in other countries. But it didn’t happen over night. They have to see who you are over time. I’m truly priviledged they gave me the benefit of the doubt and allowed me to contact them over the years and build these relationships.

    My point being is that the whole point of this article, as I read it, was to give the broadest overview of Medellin women. It will not hold true for all, but in the author’s opinion this is how the culture is and how the women act in a NIGHTLIFE scenerio. Not at work, or on the bus, or wherever. I persoanlly don’t believe gringo is king. And I’m a blue eyed gringo. I think my blue eyes present me with an opening and then where it goes from there is dependent on the expectations of myself and the woman. Since I’m only around for a week or a few it’s usually a clear case of do you want to make a new friend or do you want to have intimate relations. Expect there to be some type of monetary compensation if you think you’re going to get a women in bed in a weeks time. Not to say that a one night stand or several nights can’t happen, but let’s be honest, you better be one charming, handsome, mfer because these woman still are looking at the big picture and adding you to their resume of who they slept with usually isn’t that important. If you’re lucky enough to meet a woman and date and have sex and money is not an issue…congratulations. It’s rare. Try not be an asshole when you leave.

    Listen to Clara’s post. They are woman who would rather find the real thing then play these games, but they will play the hand they were dealt and usually play it well. Because they have the power, it soft, moist and between their legs and we all want it and will do stupid things to get it. Read her post because we guys don’t really have a clue. She just told you how it really is. That is the most valuable information on this blog. Just my 2 cents I’m prone to be wrong like everyone else.

    JR

    • Hey JR, thanks for taking the time to right. As another blue eyed gringo, I agree with most of what you said based on my experience the last few years. Especially the fact that Marcello’s painting a picture with a very broad brush. Maybe the post should carry a “for entertainment purposes only” disclaimer.

  37. Gringos are fags says:

    I feel bad for you, with all honesty colombian women only check out foreigners for their status but they rather be with a latin american any day ;) hahahahaha

    • Women seeking status is eternal and universal. Its kind of like saying, “American women only check out Derek Jeter because of his status, but they’d rather be with a plumber any day.”

      “Gringos are fags” is a chick, presumably a fat one. Giveaways:

      1. “I feel bad for you,” a variation of “I feel sorry for you” used almost exclusively by women, and guys like me mocking women when talking to them.

      2. use of an emoticon in a post directed at other guys.

      A few weeks ago, my main girl in Medellin posted liked Taylor Lautner’s Facebook page. She hasn’t similarly “liked” any other celeb’s page. He’s from Michigan and not Latin American. So, gorda, I feel sorry for you – now you know what lengths American guys are willing to go to to get away from the likes of you. Put THAT in your ice cream cone and lick it.

      • Gabochan says:

        Be quiet, broke ass Dick!!! Can’t get laid in the U.S. so you decide to get your little winnie down here?? Remember, Lorenaa Bobbit?? That happen to your sorry ass to if you keep playing with fire.

      • driveallnight says:

        Heh, knew I recognized your screen name Dirk. Hola amigo.

    • I wasn’t going to mention this but when I read Gringos are fags reply, I had to chime in.

      Foreign men are valued by the women here for the money they presumably have just like in every country in the world, but they are also valued because Latin men don’t know how to treat or fuck a women. They are like adolescent boys on both counts. They can’t even put on a decent shirt when they meet a woman out. And everyone knows a latin man will eagerly cheat on his girlfriend or wife any chance he can get, no matter how enthusiastically he told them he “loves them soooo much” the night before.

      And in general, they don’t have of a chance to earn a decent living because they are either doing what their parents did—not much—or don’t know how to create a real career for themselves. That, and they spend much of their money drinking crappy beers sitting around talking about nothing over loud music at the corner grocery store every evening. No money left for a decent restaurant where the volume of the background music allows you to have a decent conversation. Which is ok, because there’s not much to talk about when you have no ambition or life experience. Think Colombian women like that?

      And do you think the fact that your mommies catered to your whims and treated you like babies your whole life (including now as you probably still live at home) helps you impress women? That they know you will expect them to cook your food, clean your dishes and clothes, accept your silly excuses when you come home late again.. this impresses them?

      To Colombian women, foreigners represent the adult world. Where people have interests, careers, PLANS for the future, a drive to be better, independence, respect for other people (sometimes), and an ability to cook a decent meal AND clean up afterwards (My god! A man who knows how to cook something other than an arepa!) It’s certainly not true with every foreigner visiting Colombia, but it’s the belief that this is the world that they come from that attracts the women.

      You Colombian guys certainly are good-looking, but that’s good for a few fun nights when you’re in your 20s. After that, you guys need to grow up, build a life, and learn how to treat a women, because that’s what all women are looking for, whether they are white, black, Arabic or Chinese.

    • Gabochan says:

      That’s right. Go back to your broke ass country!

  38. Hello to all. Well I wanted to start off by saying that I met a paisa girl while I was visiting family in Barranquilla. Lust at first sight. We went “steady” for about 18 months and me traveling for the first time to Medellin was one of the biggest risks ever. But I had a good time and people were nice and i visited about every 2 months. Sadly little over a year ago we split up, but kept in contact. Well she got pregnate and her baby daddy got killed in accident. We still friends though and we gonna hang out a bit this weekend.

    However I want to try and venture on my own to the nice areas you guys talk about. There something about the way them paisa chics say “pues” and their nice accent.

  39. Guys – seriously: It’s better to get women in Europe, i.e. Spain, Italy, Greece – or go to Brazil.
    But here in Colombia, they are so hypocritical and old fashioned, hence life passes them by.

    I notice how ignorance and stupidity prevents progress and a better life for many of these girls
    on a daily basis.

    If you CANNOT find a girl in Europe or USA – there is no point coming here either, unless you
    want to be robbed or “gold digged”.

    My conclusion after 2 months in Colombia: Go for women from 1st world countries that has
    evolved!!!!

    • Gabochan says:

      Yeah, stay in your broke ass part of the world. we don’t want your poor broke ass here. Hahaha

    • I wouldn’t necessarily agree with you Ryan. I dont like European women or American women because they dont know how to take care of their men. I prefer Latin women and after living in Brazil for 2 months now I can agree with you about Brazil. Not all Colombian women are gold diggers but that is part of the culture

  40. don’t ahte on the writer as I have lived in colombia and visited so many times that most of his comments are dead on and there is nothing like some colombianas

    • Thanks for the comments… I try to be as honest as possible. I am Latin by blood and birth and found this to be very true.. I able to blend in from time to time so I was able to see how people reacted when it was a colombian and american.

  41. don’t hate on the writer as I have lived in Colombia and visited so many times and most of his comments are dead on.

  42. Interesting article. But can someone or the author explain what these lines in the article mean:

    “What they don’t mention is that if you
    have white skin, light eyes, and are
    considered as Gringo as a Ford F-150,
    then you will kiss on the first date. If
    you didn’t know, Gringo is King in
    Colombia.”

    • That’s Marcello’s sense of humor, jaja. He’s just trying to say that most gringos will be able to go for a kiss with a Colombian girl on the first date, and get it. As long as the guy isn’t being a total ass that is.

      • I see. Why do medellin like gringo or light features? Is it the same for all Col women?

  43. Rick.. its the age old adage that white men have a lot more money than latin men and also are better able to provide for them as well. Many middle aged men come to Colombia and get themselves a girlfriend and buy them anything they want. It’s that ideal that gringos have more money because they are from America. Another thing about Colombian culture is that they value lighter skin people higher. Medellin I have found is worse than other parts of the country because it is the most European and has the most European ancestry. If you go to the coast for example, its a completely different story. There is a lot more African heritage and the culture is more Latin & caribbean

  44. i am from Medellin and this post perfectly describes the kind of women that you can find in Parque Lleras and the Poblado area in general. Even though its a generalization it is a very accurate description of the culture there. luckily, this is a much more diverse city than you can think and if you just go to another part of the city you will see a completely different prototipe of women (intelligent, not so superficial but still beautiful)…. You can for instance try Carlos E Restrepo area…. No need to say that the rules of the game are different over there.

    • I would agree with you 100% that not all women are like this in Medellin, for most tourist however, that never leave Poblado or Parque Lleras this is what they are going to encounter. I lived in Poblado, barrio sur americana, and the Carlos E Restrepo area and have to tell you that it was no different in any of these areas. It doesn’t matter if women are intelligent or not, I have found that Colombian culture is extremely superficial. As you stated in your comment (not so superficial) but they still are extremely superficial compared to other cultures. Thanks for the comment Paisa

  45. I have read this whole blog, and am glad some women finally added, as the first part of this women in general, no matter where in the world, will find it offensive, and yes, I know it certainly wasn’t directed at women, and we weren’t supposed to read it. BUT, this is the internet and can be read worldwide!!!

    People do tend to forget that, so your paisas with their cute accent and pues will be reading what you really think of them… But probably won’t care too much, because it doesn’t matter that much what foreign transients think, or even if they think, just as you obviously don’t care what they think of you.

    I am finding that people, men and women are much more the same than different the world over, but in third world countries, the woman may not need the money for a new dress or designer purse, she may be supporting the whole impoverished family she came from, using what she has, what God gave her, brains, looks, and body.

    And just as from the beginning of time, any woman can get laid and any man can get married, the game goes on. Few foreigners plan to get married to a foreign girl on their vacation, regardless of how long that stay is. And the girl, if she is of age, and not over-sheltered, will know it.

    However, she may be willing to play with you for awhile, and promote your illusion that she cares, if she has picked up intuitively that that is what you want, and women are very good at it!! Or maybe she is a competitive type, and you are a notch on her gun! The exotic is always interesting, so who isn’t a little bit attracted to foreigners? And this works both ways, for women too.

    My daughter spent a year in college in Japan and wanted to return because she felt so beautiful there, more so than in the USA. I still remember my brother coming back to California after a semester in college in Texas, bragging that the women in Texas were all so much better looking (ie plastic surgery and lots of make-up, sexy clothes). And, stating “Texas, where men are men and women are glad of it!! And I replied “Texas, where men are men and women take advantage of it!!”

    I understand from this blog that men get older, but no smarter, because none are so blind as those who don’t want to see. So go, vacation, use people, but know that they are using you, too!! And if you do find a sheltered innocent, let loose in the world for the first time, be aware that your using her for your selfish desires will mature her into that that you were trying to avoid.

    • I would have to agree with with your comments here Anabarbara but this wasn’t meant to be directed at one kind of person and I actually would prefer that women read it and gave me their opinion. I never meant to write this post to talk about what men do in Medellin or how Colombia is known for the sex tourism industry. The fact of the matter is that this is the way things are in Colombia and especially in Medellin with the culture coming from the Pablo Escobar drug trade area, remember that Pablo Escobar loved young women and his wife was extremely young. I was merely stating the facts of what its like in the dating scene in Colombia… thanks for the comment

      • It is gracious of you to reply to my post (sincerely). I can’t believe how long this has gone on, really. I came to this site accidently, out of curiosity triggered by my cousin, who has a friend that lived in Medellin for a year, and talked of it, trying to get him to visit, although all I ever heard about was wonderful climate, beautiful place.

        I have known several people from Colombia, all living in California, dated a man that was half, grew up in Colombia until his teens, then back to California. His father a Geologist who met his mother while working. His mother was a very sweet, lovely person and a great cook, too. I guess I don’t have so much problem with your initial post as the responses to it, the worst of which seem to come from Americans (makes me ashamed to be one).

        They sound like they think foreign countries and people are amusement parks, with games to be played and rides to be ridden. What I come away with, is nice climate or not, it is not a good place to be female, unless you are looking for plastic surgeions for an economical price.

        I would just have to hope that they weren’t related to these paisas or I might wind up looking like the Escobar guy! Let me know if you have a link about Australia or New Zealand, I have a thing for Aussies, myself. Best wishes as you wander. Anabarbara

  46. Maybe so but we’ll be dead by then.

  47. Anabarbara says:

    One can hope for the best…..

  48. Joe American says:

    My Colombian friend keep bugging me to go with him to when he visits his family in Bogota. You guys have a grasp of the fun that can be had. My problem is my work is so busy. I am making more money than ever but dont have any extra time, I think I need to make some.

    It is understandable why some women will feel bad about this, they attended the I hate men classes in college. And since this philosophy guarantees unhappiness the practitioners want every one around to be just as unhappy. And here we have a bunch of guys who are enjoying there lives having fun with fun people, why should we spend our lives hating the opposite sex, life’s too short. I guess they are jealous and want to spoil our enjoyment of life. Just ignore the unhappy sad sacks. I agree Peru is also a great place, so many wonderful people in the world, cant we just get along :)

    As far a gold digging status seeking women, prostitutes by behavior, women looking for a meal ticket – they are common everywhere in the world, America very included.

  49. Anabarbara says:

    The seed of truth falls on semi-fertile soil, only to be shriveled by the defense mechanisms of the self-deluded…. The writer of the truth is always discredited as being man-hating, ugly, or a raft of other negatives. If I was of that ilk, I would be saying that you all are ugly, impotent, and hate women, but I only think you are self-deluded.

    In the end, only respect for each other will lead to love and understanding, between different countries, different people, and men and women. And that is what every relationship between anyone, man or woman, should be based on. Remember, as you leave North America, that you are no longer just a person, you are now a representative of where you came from, and possibly the only contact that some foreigner will ever have with that place.

    I only ask that you respect yourself and others. I never asked that you stay home and have no fun. Go, but try not to be “repugnante”.

  50. I have several parceras here in The U.S. and yes, they are absolutely beautiful. But please, I love them like family and would die for any of them. They are not to be used for lustful pleasure or eye candy. They have hearts and souls and are some of the best people I know. Their love and sincerity is difficult to find in America.

    So take our eyes off their chests and legs and look into their eyes. Keep your pants on and get to know them. Treat her respectfully and when she says “I do”, then take her home.

    If you go to Medellin, and your goal is to take one home for a night or to get as many women as you can….as If Latinas are stupid and don’t know what you’re up to…just stay in America, Gringo. if you’re looking for new friends for a lifetime and family, you will fall in love with them.

    • David I would have to agree with everything that you said here. One of the things that I am very happy about is how Colombia is emerging outside of the sex tourism which they are known for. There are a lot of unique things to see in Colombia and now that the economy is booming more people are going for more than just women.

  51. first off all, I don’t think in gringos as “kings”, come on… second, yes I’m a colombian woman, from cali, and yes, here are a lot , I mean a LOT of plastic women (silicone,most of all), so I woudn’t say surgery and a lot of make up equals the real beauty. third, it seems to me that most of the women you met were from disco’s (or wathever) , but those women don’t represent all colombian women… ok?
    and finally, I woudn’t accept a kiss of a man on the first date, gringo or not….. bajate los humos querido!

    ps: sorry for my bad english

    • You’re English is fine Laurita. Apparently I have bad breath.

      • First off if you don’t speak Spanish don’t go!! I don’t mean a few phrases you need to be fluent. Second, If you do good with the ladies in the US you will probably do good here too. If not, u better have a fat wallet (not unlike the US). If your an average middle aged man looking for a young hottie for marriage beware! I see it all the time an attractive Colombian woman with some fat old bald dude just bleeding him dry. IM not trying to be mean but ya’ll haven’t been here to see what its really like. There are stunning women here especially Medellin but remember theres plenty of locals with good looks and cash too. So the tens are pretty much sewed up. I have a place here in Medellin I stay a few months out of the year and have a beautiful girlfriend whom I met here but it took a lot of time. Im 36 she is 28 and she loves me and money isn’t here first priority. If you just want to take women to pound town I suggest hookers. And also would suggest Costa Rica if that’s what ur looking for. If you really want to find a great local woman its the same game anywhere in the world win her heart and be realistic about what your really looking for. Gringos like me are not kings to all women but if you take the time to really know a Colombian woman and find she is loyal and sincere your set fellas because you will be here king..In conclusion learn Spanish keep realistic goals in mind and weed out the blood suckers you can find the women of your dreams. Just not in a week or two. Hope this helps

    • well said, most women in picture are from discos..

  52. Laurita.. las mujeres que yo conoci no eran todas de discos, conoci muchas mujeres de otros lados tambien. Ademas que me gusta rumbear y pasarlo bien si fui a otros lugares adonde conoci diferente tipos de mujeres. Esto no significa que todas mujeres en Colombia (o Cali) son asi, pero para los turistas que visitan Colombia lamentablemente es asi.

  53. I live in Medellin, married to an American. I am an attractive woman in my 30’s, educated and financially stable. I get so annoyed every time I am seating at a coffee shop and I always get this Gringos trying to pick me up, asking for my number etc… Ew!!!

    • To be fair, men will try to pick up attractive women anywhere in the world. That’s human nature!

      How they go about it in Colombia might be a little different, especially if it involves trying to speak in broken Spanish. Thanks for reading :)

    • El Guapo says:

      Yes, it must be terrible to be so attractive that men ask you for your telephone number!

  54. Gringos tend to go to Medellin, get attention from cute young girls, or at least meet some who are responsive, and assume they’re special because they’re gringos. The fact is, being a gringo doesn’t mean much…..the men who are native to the city are getting every bit as many women as any gringos because it’s just easier for men, period (at least compare to the US).

    The other thing is…..it’s easy to meet 20 year old cuties, and there are a shitload of them. But you’ll almost never see a gringo with a drop-dead gorgeous, tall, light-skinned paisa with dark-black hair. 95% of those women have Colombian boyfriends, and these guys have money.

    The other thing to keep in mind is that money and prostitution is a huge part of Medellin culture. A very high percentage of the women in that city will sleep with guys for money, and there are scores of older gringos who know this…..for every 1 middle-class girl who takes care of herself, there are 5 chicks who are with guys because they give them money, that’s the truth. A ton of chicks need or want money (for clothes, bills, phones, help with rent, you name it). I even met a very cute 23 year old paisa girl from the states on a plane who told me she didn’t like to come back to MDE for too long cause all her friends always asked to borrow money.

  55. I just arrived here only two weeks ago. not so sure about the women being attracted to gringo’s but I do see they like our money. One thing I find different, they dont have a problem with coming to your apartment for a first meeting. I’m retired and not sure how long I will stay here, but would like to enjoy the company of a few more of the women and see where it go’s……

  56. I am a Latin USA 40 year old hunk…LOL going to Medellin with my gringo attorney friend for 7 days this month… All we want to do is have fun and meet people… Hot women are nice, nice women are hot. We both get plenty of them here in the US, but a little change on the scene is refreshing… It seems a lot of people are hug up on sex being something extraordinary… And sharing money being something bad… I make money and don’t mind sharing it with anyone for a taxi fare… Whether thy give me a kiss or not… I can get laid for free or paying. The same as everyone else… I do like meeting people and being nice to them… And vice versa… Obviously in 7 days you cannot have eternal love or deep relationships… But a good kiss, a great talk, lots of dancing and marathon sex does not sound bad at all…

    Thank you for sharing your ideas… And have fun, we are all going to die anyway!

    • Sex is nothing extraordinary Good4it, but a lot of guys who come to Medellin end up having sex with sexy young women they could get in the states, so for them it is. The place is very rapidly becoming a sex-tourism city.

      • woops! I mean they COULDN’T get in the states….just walk around Parque LLeras and you’ll see what I mean.

  57. Does anyone here that has lived in Medellin ever do any skype so I can really learn more and
    when i am there i can be prepared but for me i would think middle age woman would be a lot
    better thing as they are older and and more mature and things will go a lot smoother if you are
    just out for young girls I would assume that money is only attraction i have been to Colombia
    about 3 times but only for business but I had a great time with 34 / 45 can someone Skype me
    and we can chat my Skype is opticguard

  58. peeking at the World says:

    Just read every post from every posting. Columbia is just a place on the map to visit, perhaps relocate. If you’re looking for a lady of the night, chances are you can find that. I’ve traveled around the World, and no matter what social level you’re on, depending on where you find your interest you can enjoy women. Forget all the hype on how tall, your eye color, complexion, or how much money you have. Just find your proiorities and be a go getter! There are long term committments, or agreement as mentioned, or quick short stays of convenience. Every country has beautiful women. Just go rest your head (both of them), safely and enjoy the beauty of our counterparts.

  59. peeking at the World says:

    Go find a nice lady! Eat drink and be happy. The are many fantasy Islands all over the World. Lucky for many, that we can live or stay in any of these places at our leisure. For many though, these places are merely illusions, and it’s best to just enjoy what you came for then get back to reality. If you’re searching Columbia for sex and sexy ladies, you can find plenty, but there are also a lot of plastic illusionist there also. Kinda sucks that it’s become a World where women have to create themselves to become the illusion. I don’t want to offend anyone, certainly not any women that’s reading this post, but I much rather a women to be naturally beautiful. To each their own. Hey it is what it is! Secret Service fun cost the same as we all pay. Some pay with the dollar, some pay by the time shared. It’s all in the way you find reaching your goal.

    • Hey PATW…..

      Let’s be honest about one thing, money is almost always a part of the equation when it comes to relationships. In the States, plenty of marriages have ended because of money. Most women want a man who does well because they offer a comfortable life.

      Prostitution isn’t as black and white as some try to make it….Hugh Hefner’s “girlfriends” are all hookers, but nobody really says it outright. He’s obviously on the extreme end of the hooker-real love continuum, but you get my point.

  60. Go to bogota! Much better than Medellin in almost everyway, except granted the climate. Meet intelligent progressive women, live in the UNESCO city of music, meet people from all over Colombia, live in a real international city. I have lived in both Medellin and Bogota and view Medellin as a small town. It offers nothing like Bogota. But am I glad all the gringos continue going there and ignoring Bogota? Yes I am, Medellin has changed in the past 5 years for the worse due to the growing Tourism, Bogota is changing but a city of 8m people is better positioned to absorb this without material impact. I hope

  61. sean carter says:

    Are there any repuatable websites or marriage agencies I can use to meet Colombian women? I was was in Medellin on holiday a few years ago and thought that the women are some of the most stunning I had ever seen and I have travelled the world. Any information would be appreciated.

  62. I am interested in meeting the women in other Colombian cities besides those in Barranquilla. I have been Barranquilla twice but I would like to meet more women I am really attracted. I am thinking about going to Medellin or Cali someday.

  63. Silas Velasquez says:

    In that context, a Brazilian man could be called “Gringo” too? I am going to have a season in Cali and my dream is to bring a Colombian woman ( in that season or later). One say the most beatifuls girls are from Cali ( tanned with loose hips and crazy about salsa), from Medellin (more European) and from Manizales (white, sweet appearance, romantic and love vallenato). Is it reasonable (not a question of money) for a girl from these beautiful cities would leave her family and amazing country to live with me in Brazil? But again, the most important: I would be a “gringo” for them or, as a Latin, I would be more “from home”?

  64. I think the person who wrote this article is a macho man looking for ligth-stupid but beutiful women and the world is full of them, not only Medellin. I´m from Medellin and im a profesional. I know hundred of paisa women who are not that way. Around the world you can find women according with your mentality.. if you are a ligth-head, for sure you are going to find this kind of people. Of course this kind of articles is to keep the macho-men mentality. Lets look for hig quality people and start by yourself!
    Im a woman, paisa woman, and i have to say to find a good quality man is too difficult all arround the world too! they are few. but of course, if you want to find them in a bar, that´s going to be impossible.
    Good thing in Medellin, is that you can find beutiful, intelligent and independent women, but they are going to be critic about the guy who is flirting to them, specially foreign guys!!!!!!!! Grigo’ macho man: GO HOME!!!!!!!!!! you are not the king of our land… you are rich cuz your country exploit countries with less power. Im totally desagree with this article… It´s just a point of view between millions!!!! and it´s ofensive.

    • Hi Violeta, thanks for reading the article, and sharing your point of view.

      If not in the bars or discotecas, where can the good guys go to meet smart, attract, professional paisas?

      • Basically not in Clubs but through Friends that you make. People tend to live in bubbles they hang around with people who share the same values as them. The best girls tend to be the the ones you meet through friends at house parties birthdays little events. You won’t meet these girls in Clubs as they don’t go partying every other week.

        • Happy Gringo

          I am happy to say i met a beautiful woman online from Colombia(soacha)so we tak.ed for six months and i decided to Go to Colombia where i fell in love with this lady and her familiy….I treated everybody with respect and i got the same respect back…..I loved my six months there and i am going back untill her visa is processed and than we will return to canada…No visa i would be quite happy to live in Colombia….All i am saying to everyone is respect the people and they respect you….I am back in canada now shovelling snow..MUCHAS GRACIAS COLOMBIA..my life has changed for the better since i met and fell in love

      • Hi Dave,

        I just found your website and love it. :-)

        I thought about your question and here are some options:

        – Joining a course: What are your hobbies? What would you like to learn? Photography, cooking, dancing? Maybe it’s easier to find a professional girl if you join the evening or weekend classes…

        – Joining a social network like CouchSurfing.com. This website is not only for cheap hosting, but for making new friends, interesting friends. People in this community love travelling and would love to chat with people from other countries or cultures.

        – Joining a language-exchange group. There are some in Envigado and Medellin. You will find more info at CouchSurfing.com. Have you been to Tinto Tintero?

        – Attending cultural events like those posted at Eafit University: http://www.eafit.edu.co/cultura/Paginas/inicio.aspx

        I hope it helps, good luck!

        • To many comments in here. I like to travel allot and been with allot of women beautiful and not so much. Is about how you make each other feel and the laughs you had. Hopefully people understand. Peace!

      • Juan David says:

        Gringo is king!!! king of the prostitutes maybe!!!!!, go home dirty gringos mongrels!!!!!!

    • Violeta, thank you for your insight, I for one appreciate a woman’s perspective, after all, it’s is closest to the source. I have been to Colombia twice in 2011. I loved the cities I went to. I only have been to Bogota, and Cartagena. I loved the walled city. I liked Bogota as well,.. but almost too big. As far as the women go, I preferred the looks of the women from Bogota. A little more refined, ( for lack of a better term). I want to try to go to Medellin next. Yes, its true, I would love to find a serious relationship with a beautiful women from Colombia. It is difficult to shake the stigmatism that I feel from women there. I am a tall (6’2″/188cm) good looking guy, yes green eyes, from Canada,. very limited spanish ( which hurts). But how does an honest guy, not looking for sex, but rather to develop a serious relationship, where, and/or how does he approach an attractive paisas woman? I would just like to know if it is possible in Medellin, I could go on, but I will leave it there.

      • i would to say a met a beautiful Colombian woman with a heart of gold..i met her online and than went to live with her in Colombia..Was treated like a king and her family made me feel right at home….My life has changed for the better and if can not get her a visa i would gladly live in soacha….

  65. I love this… This is good stuff here. I do find that there is still a form of caste system in South America. For the people who are from Colombia and other parts of South America I’m sorry but it’s true. I’m a black male from the US. I can tell you that racism in parts of Brazil and Colombia is bad. I no longer will visit Brazil or certain parts of Colombia. I even met another Black man in the Dominican Republic and he said the women in Brazil would not give him the time of day. I also meet a women from NJ on the bus and she is of tan complexion and she stated that she was shocked how racist Brazil was for her. Other people from other countries talk about racism in the States. I laugh at this. How many other countries in South America have dark Presidents or multi colored Cabinets? Not many if any. Why are Dark skinned people pushed to the undesirable parts of the country and continued to be the least educated? I never have a problem in the states. I never have a problem in Dominican Republic and yes it’s racist there also, but not as South America. This denial by people from these countries or excuses is insulting. I have many friends from South America and we talk honestly amongst each other. They admited it exist heavily in South America… This thing about preference based on eye color, give me a break. I have a preference “Good Women” But, I love South American women of all colors even though I know that’s not returned in full.

    • I lived in Medellin for a year. I had good black friend form the USA who was and is still living in Medellin teaching BJJ at a Gymn. To be honest I do think he has a harder time getting girls but he he loves it out there.

      Cali is a great city and is 40% black you should definitely check it out.

    • You find what you’re looking for in life. I lived in Medellin for a year in 2010 working for a private university after graduating from uni in London. I had a great time and plan on coming back once I have developed professionally and saved up for a few years. Both my parents are from Colombia and I was born and raised in London.

      Everything I’ve read here definitely has a degree of truth but it is over generalised. I met many of the stereotypical foreign travellers and stereotypical women while living in Medellin and travelling Colombia. They come here for some “fun” and take advantage or are being taken advantage of depending on your point of view, by a certain group of women which exist all over the world but which is unfortunately much more prevalent/ visible and accessible to the average Joe in developing countries.

      To be honest the same thing happens everywhere, even here in the UK where men go out looking for tail, there are sugar daddies and girls interested in money it’s just not as visible.

      I always found it funny walking through Parque Lleras/ Barrio Colombia etc how many but not all foreign men went crazy here with plastic, superficial women. They loved it here because back home they didn’t stand a chance but in Colombia they felt like kings because of the attention they received. I personally have never found these kind of women attractive but each to there own.

      However this “King” mentality could be due to Colombia’s great hospitality. Colombian people are very warm, friendly affectionate people who like to welcome strangers into their homes and lives whether they be foreign or Colombian it doesn’t matter.

      Many of you have probably had first hand experience with how Colombian people especially women are friendly and easy to get along with. It’s normal to go out and make new friends at the club and talk to strangers in Colombia and then be invited to a house party or BBQ (e.g you can ask any girl to dance salsa with you and 90% chance she will say yes). In western countries it’s not as common to receive such hospitality especially from strangers.

      I think this is one of the reasons that Colombia is so popular because of the hospitality and lifestyle of it’s people which is refreshing and eye opening to many. You’ll find whatever you look for in life and while Colombia does have a number of these plastic, material, superficial women it has a thousand times more intelligent, caring, hard working women with open hearts.

      • Feliz ano SteveO, thanks for taking the time to share your experiences.

        You raise a great point about the hospitality. I do believe that’s part of what has always had me feeling welcome here.

        I continue to hope that doesn’t change as tourism brings more and more foreigners to the country.

      • SteveO,

        Thank you for the accenting the question of hospitality, but it born another question.

        If 90% of Colombian women would go to dance salsa with you, what their husbands and boyfriends think of this?

        Or maybe 90% of Colombian women are free? If yes, why so many of thm are free, if they’re so beautiful?

        Should be something wrong with the number of 90% or with Colombian women.

    • El Guapo says:

      I totally agree with what you stated. I have been to Brazil only once but have been to Colombia at least sixteen times and it is quite obvious.

  66. Tell me about it. I’ve been dealing with Medellin women for over 30 years ( yes, I am 30 years old ). When I fist talked to American about 10 years ago, and found out that a great number of men were coming for the women, I coudn’t believe what they told me (and still tell me) about the women in the US. I grew up watching American fims with the blond, blue eyed, beautiful American woman. I then realized that the truth was not what I thought. Women liberation was a major hit for the men in the US, and I don’t want to get too deen into that.
    But yes, everyday I see how women in my town change with time. Another problem is that my fellow Colombians (if you can say that) and even myself made this to happen.
    Yes. I also take the blame. we are known for being unfaithful, and I guess because we grew up with so much abundance of women that forgot how lucky we are. Women indeed compete all the time, because of us. they know that we only need to turn our head and there we’ll find another lovely lady.
    I am not like that anymore.
    Thank you all for coming to Medellin. I think you’ll find us very fun of foreigners. I thimk it’s because we really admire the US.
    Thank you Dave for writing this article, I found it very fun to read.

    • I was doing some general research on Medellin sites for things to do outside of getting laid 2-3 times a day! Any travel places like Santa Marta or that big lake worth seeing? I was amused by the responses and cant possibily respond to all but thought I throw in my observations about touring Medellian. Dont get me wrong,,,the very cute women are the main reason why Im going there and they seem very curious and friendly to us midaged gringos? The best looking are in their late teens and up into their 20’s and 99% are not virgins, are familiar w/ having sex and most likely have a 2 yr old kid!! By ther time they are in their 30’s..they are outta that business cause they are way too old…not my rules but the competition for nice guys is too intense from the young pretty girls and that Medellin women out number men by 10x. Its simple that young women date older men cause they spend money on them in exchange for some companionship and lots of lustful sex. Thats true in the US and most other places i visit in the world.
      You can pretend your having a relationship but its more like your taking care of a teenager. It does get expensive when your paying out for those damm taxi’s, food, shoes, sunglasses, cloths and and extra $40/$50 for the lil darlings to go home with. It works for them and provides needed cash for rent, food and the family. I will be heading to Pablado for 2 weeks this June for the 2nd time in 1 year. Last time I ran outta things to do after traveling all over the the metro, the skytram to the lake, the zoo and the Premium Plaza shopping Mall. A friend of mine has been going down there specifically for meeting and sleeping with young pretty women and spends a HUGE amount of time pre meeting them on the Columbia Cupid meet and greet site. I think he is 60 and average looking at best BUT gets more women than Hugh himself. The food in Medellin is average at best and can be a family run BBQ or usually the fast food fare in some food court! Oh and they dont speak english so learn some spanish!

  67. Gringo is king?

    Not in Medellin.mtheyre well used to foreigners and tourists, so the games not as easy as in other ares of Colombia.

  68. This has been a great thread to read through! I am a 43 year old taller green eyed (is eye colour really that important in Colombia??) Canadian who is thinking about possibly retiring and spending 6 months a year in Colombia for a few reasons. 1. Weather!! Get away from the ice and snow. 2. Value-if I can by on $2800 U.S. Per month in Medellin the dividends will keep growing. 3. Learn a new language and culture. 4. Possibly meet a special woman. I am divorced and would love to meet a woman in Colombia around the age of 30 who is serious about getting married and having a family. Is this possible?? I have read on these forums that women in Colombia will probably all be either married, divorced or already with children by the time they hit 30. Even though I am serious about this I am sure the prepagos must be tempting when you are searching for Ms. Right and all your ex pat buddies are going P4P several times a week. Dave I would love to meet up with you if and when I finally make it to Medellin! Your articles have been great.

    • Thanks Jason, I come and go from Medellin. I’ll be here until April 2013. Best thing to do is ping me when you’re actually here.

      Yes, it does feel like the majority of women will have a child by the time they’re 30. The ones that don’t, in my experience, tend to come from a higher strata (class), have better educations (Bachelor’s Degree), and may have spent some time living or working in Europe or the USA.

    • @Jason,

      I’m a colombian woman close to her 30s. Unfortunately, you are right and most of my friends are married or with children, even though they got a university degree. But, I said most of them, not all of them! The others live alone, still with their parents (even though they have a good job) or with their boyfriends (like me). So, definitely, there are some girls my age that could be interested in you, you just need to be alert to find them… But if you get tempted in the process by prepagos, you will lose sooo many points if she finds out!…

      • Hi Carola,
        Thanks for your reply. In Colombia would it be considered “unusual” if a man that is 45-50 is married to a woman who is 28-30? I am not looking for the youngest woman I can find. I am looking for a woman who is serious about getting married and having a family. When Colombian women who are around 30 years old and live with their families are they happy with this arrangement or do they have a desire to move out and live in their own apartments with a boyfirend/husband? What about if I go to church on Sunday? If a Colombian woman and her family see me in church would that be more comfortable with me in their lives?
        Thanks!

      • Hi Carla I met a woman online she is from Barranquilla and Works for a cell phone store. She seems honest and loyal you think this is so? She is 35 attractive with no children. She decided to go to school so many she is one of the few good ones left.

      • Wow Carola what you said in your comment is so interesting..jaja! Colombians are very family orientated. Very similar to Asian Culture, specifically Chinese…jaja:)

  69. Hey Dave neat site, but please do something with that 3box social networking in the middle. every time i scroll down that thing just keep following me

  70. The women in your city are pretty !

  71. This read has just made my Saturday night – and I’m an active 33 yo living in the States. Great stuff people!

    Dave/all – I’m considering taking a TESOL course and teaching English in Colombia … and yep, agree with another reader that DirkJohanson is the man and slapping some tail down there is a massive incentive. A few questions …
    – you know of decent places to teach English in Medillin?
    – in your opinion, what’s the best city in Colombia to live that’s closest to great beaches?

    (and obviously, these places have to have passionate, cool, hot chicks).

    Thanks mate!

    • Glad to hear it JJ.

      – First, Medellin is the most competitive city in Colombia for English teaching jobs. It’s simply harder here. And it’s hard to find work before you arrive, because Colombians prefer to do business in person. Don’t expect replies to your email inquiries. Read this article for more.

      – Er, tough one. I wouldn’t want to live on the coast, it’s sweltering, with extremely high humidity all year. Cartagena is very touristy, Barranquilla is an industrial city — aside from Carnaval every year, there’s not much going on. Never been to the beaches there. I wasn’t impressed with Santa Marta either.

      IMHO, and generally speaking, the prettiest girls are in Medellin and Cali, not on the coast.

      • DUDE! Are you sure about Santa Marta not being worth the 11 hr trip? I thoght it “might” be fun to grap a pretty honey and make the trip? My friend ssays there are mostly prepago and its expensive too?

  72. I have recently met a woman from Medellin on a site and wow is she ever hot. Has anyone here ever met one online and how honest did you find her? Yes I do agree they are very affectionate indeed. I think this girl is amazingly intelligent and very sweet. Wish they had women like that here in North America.

    • I’ve met a bunch of girls through the internet here. I’ve met all types, honest and dishonest. Generally speaking, the prettier girl, the more cautious you should be. I advise not getting too invested online before you meet her in person. And definitely don’t be sending girls money.

  73. I lived here in this “city” for 1.5 yeas. Most of women are clearl overweight and short, and on the average quite ognrant. The only pretty girls I can see are gringas or european tourists.
    I have never seen so may fat girls thinking they are pretty in the same place in my life, and on top of that they even want you to pay for everything as if they were queens ..? I can score really pretty american and eupean girls without any problem and they dont ask me for any money.
    The only ppl who like colombia are old fat westeners who are fooled by these girls who only get thier $$$ or some other ugly looser who nneds to go to a poor country get some attention from women just becasuethey dont know he is a looser back home, but a poor looser is a big winner in Colombia.

    Enough?

    • Jimmy,

      Appreciate your comments, though I disagree. It’s also hard to take your points seriously with such poor spelling.

      First off, everyone’s standards for beauty are different, and what one country/society deems attractive or sexy, another devalues.

      Curvaceous women are deemed more beautiful in Colombia, and most Latin countries (Argentina is an exception). This is why breast implants, and unfortunately, butt implants, are so popular. Meanwhile in North America, Europe and Australia, slender figures are preferred.

      Go back to the 1500’s and the Italian Renaissance, and you’ll find the women deemed beautiful (and thus painted) were much heavier than any model you’ll see in a 2013 Victoria’s Secret catalogue.

      You may think Medellin women are fat, but on the whole, being a little overweight is nothing compared to the obesity epidemic plaguing the USA.

    • WELL SAID ABOUT FAT GRINGOS IN FORIEN LANDS! IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET REGULAR IN THE USA, BUT IF YOU SPEAK LIKE YOU SPELL… MOST GRINGOS GOT IT MADE ….BRO!

  74. Kenny from NJ says:

    Green Global Traveler said: I’ve never been to Medellin, but the women in Cartagena were definitely the most beautiful I’ve ever seen, and like you said have an amazing way of letting you know they’re interested just by using their eyes.

    I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!! I was in Colombia for two weeks back in May of 2008. I was in Cartagena, Bogota, and Medellin and hands down the most beautiful women are in Cartagena. The tan to brown complexion with long jet black hair along with naturally beautiful faces and their curvy figures drove me wild. The mix of Amerindian and African blood is heavy in that region. The women of Bogota and Medellin were average looking, in my opinion. Nothing special. However, I did see a few in both cities that deserved a lengthy stare.

  75. I’m going to be going to Colombia this summer with a buddy of mine who has been there many times and has made lots of friends in Medellin and Bogota. How can I tell if a woman is really interested in me as person and not because I’m an American?

    • I continue to ask myself and others this question, but there’s no way to ever really know for sure. If you’re looking for a relationship, not just to play the field, only time will tell.

      My best advice is to take it slow (not physically, but emotionally and financially). This allows ample time for her to do or say things that may raise flags in your mind.

      Here are a few early warning signs:

      – Some women will be very up front about asking for you to pay their taxis…to the very first date. The further away the woman, and the greater the cost to you, the bigger the flag it should raise. You’re more likely to pay for taxi rides when trying to date younger girls, who are either students or unemployed.

      – If she suggests a high cost first date, such as an expensive restaurant, and/or a big Friday or Saturday night out (including a costlier discoteca), that’s a warning sign. One of my favorite first dates is going out to a regular salsa bar (like Son Havana or El Tibiri), getting a beer or two, and dancing.

      – More ambitious women may drop hints toward taking trips, such as to Cartagena or the coast. Some will even ask you for money before you meet in person (if online dating), or on the first date (to help pay for XYZ). Run!

      – Doesn’t say “thank you” or show consistent signs of appreciation. Some girls seem to think we owe them. I like to pay for my dates, but at a minimum, I expect a “thank you” though some girls wont’ bother. This seems to be a Latin cultural thing…I dont’ think it’s specific to Colombia.

      The more you date, the better a feel you’ll get for which girls are worth investing your time and energy.

    • Amanda in Hawaii says:

      I think white guys aren’t really sure in MANY places in the world …..

      • Willian says:

        If you are an American going to a foreign country, you need to leave you American habit in the states. Man up and paid for the lady dinner. Not every country is like the US. I been to Colombia once and oh my god!!!! I felt in love! I am going back four month after returning from my first trip there.

  76. Re Jimmy’s Post 16th April

    Although it is a very badly written post (I wonder if English is his first language) I do think some of his points hold water although I am surprised he claims to have seen enough gringas or european tourists in Medellin to make a judgement unless he spends his life hanging out in and around the hostels of Pablado.

    I think is fair to say the vast majority of the Gringos in Medellin are probably not the most successful with the opposite sex back home – I’m trying to be tactful here :)

    I guess they mainly come here believing that the generous exchange rate they enjoy when changing their £’s, Euros’s or $’s will make them the high roller they are certainly not back home.

    Sure you can have success if you want to throw your money around in the direction of the girls from the poorer barrios but is that really what you are looking for in a relationship? Believe me you will have absolutely nothing at all in common and this will quickly become apparent. Her financial demands will simply increase on an almost daily basis and you will become tired of it, broke or both!

    My advise is this: live a simple, clean and normal life here and make friends. From these friendships, I guarantee if you are a decent and honest guy you will find the right person.

    • very nicely said BUT ya might as well fake it till ya make it…unless you are some drunken loaf that hasnt much to do all day but look for his next pussy conquest? Can you do that for very long?

  77. Great work Dave very interesting topic.
    I’m having an online relationship with a girl in Medellin that started a month ago. We Skype for 2-3 hours every day. Although there is an age difference I have found her to be very mature about the relationship (more than me) and a real love of life. She does make me feel like a very special person and has never asked for money or even dropped any hints. Our plan is to keep skyping until I travel over there at Christmas time, see how we feel about everything and take it from there. I do keep asking her why would she be interested in an older guy and I get similar answers (to some above threads) about Colombian men and their work ethics and relationship misbehavements.
    Keep up the great work.

    • colombian-american-canadian says:

      Hi Xteve,

      I am a professional guy originally from Colombia, and have spent the last 18 years living between the US and Canada (Miami, NYC and Toronto). When I saw your post, i felt the need to reply as it is well known by Colombians that dating Colombian women through online websites is a very shaky business. Plenty of internet dating and romance scams are originated from Colombia, so I would recommend you to be VERY, VERY cautious about it.

      Colombia, as extraordinary as it is, may also be an extremely dangerous place for foreigners; the last thing you want to do is to throw away your hard-earned money, or being mugged or something worse if you travel there under false pretenses.

      Please take a look at the recommendations made by the US Department of State, Bureaus of Consular Affairs, April 4th 2013: (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/financial_scams/financial_scams_4554.html)

      Romance scams involve one or more – sometimes all – of the key signs below:

      You met online through a dating website, an e-mail chat room, Facebook, or another online website.

      The scammer claims to be a native-born U.S. citizen, but has a thick accent and/or uses poor grammar indicative of a non-native English speaker.

      Scammers have the worst luck imaginable — often getting into car crashes, arrested, mugged, beaten, or hospitalized — usually all within the course of a couple of months. They often claim that their key family members (parents and siblings) are dead. Sometimes, the scammer claims to have an accompanying child overseas who is very sick or has been in an accident.

      The scammer’s “bad luck” often occurs on the way to the airport to catch a flight to the United States to meet you. Scammers like to build the anticipation of their victims. Once you are excited about the chance to finally meet this individual in person, that’s when something occurs to prevent him/her from making the trip. They count on your excitement about the anticipated meeting as an extra incentive to send money. As soon as you send money, however, another situation occurs, which requires you to send more money.

      The scammer asks you for money to get out of a bad situation. Note: Since scammers prey on the good intentions of U.S. citizens, some of them will not actually ask you for money. Rather, they will share their heart-breaking situation with you in hopes that you will willingly send money to help them.

      The scammer claims that the U.S. Embassy would not help them. Likely they have never tried to get help from the embassy, because they are not actually U.S. citizens.

      The passport the scammer sent to convince you that (s)he is a U.S. citizen looks computerized and includes a very attractive photo that looks like it was taken by a professional modeling agency or at a photography studio. This is not a typical passport photo.

  78. Nigel D says:

    Very cool to read all of these diverse opinions about Colombia.

    I’ve read this thread from top to bottom on a lazy Saturday while planning my next trip to Colombia. This time Medellin. I lived in Cartagena for an entire year recently, loved it so so much that I actually overstayed my tourist visa by a little over 6 months.

    I have NEVER seen such a sexy multi ethnic collection of tail in all different colors. Ranging from the blackest of black, to the light brown, dark brown, the Indian, the hybrid mixes of everything that you can imagine, and even white Colombian chicks. Not a lot of pasty chicks in Cartagena. The skin that you will see often is Black, Brown or tanned.

    The only time I noticed a heavy influx of pasty chicks was during some kind of massive holiday break where the people from the inland Medellin and Bogota etc would vacation in droves to Cartagena or Tolu.

    Or when some kind of business event was taking place at the convention center. I’ve bagged black girls, white girls, Indian, girls who were mixed with black and white, (in fact my very first shag was a black white blend) from a town called Sincelejo. We spent a long weekend (some Saints Holiday- Many Saint Holidays in Colombia) in a beach town called Tolu which is about a 3 hour bus ride from Cartagena.

    Beautiful girl, lots of Fun, she had just turned 18. Pretty, and petite the way that I like them. Drama free chick. Happy days. Very low maintenance. I met her at a bull fight which I utterly detested.

    I also met a super cute chick while at a Cartagena restaurant called Crepes and Waffles. She was on spring break with her 4 girlfriends, all were from Cali.
    They were all pretty and pretty much looked the same, long dark hair, big pink lips, pasty, petite yet curvy bodies, great smiles. Enjoying life. It was apparent they came from higher strata level Colombian families.

    One of the girls was more exotic looking because she was darker with more Indian features, the kind I’m usually most attracted to, women with Color.

    The way I understand it, they had just completed high school and were excited about attending College.

    My buddy and I were having dinner and they were sitting at the table next to us. When they overheard us speaking English, one of the pasty ones introduced herself, and wanted to ‘Practice her English’, and then we all became fast friends and ended up sharing a table and cervesas + rum.

    The short version of this story is I ended up hooking up with the girl who introduced herself to us to begin with. Now I have a thing for her type.. long black hair, curvy petite bod, dreamy pink lips. lol. Happy days.

    I could literally write a book about the range of chicks I bagged in Colombia, the social mindsets, the racial politics, the mindsets of the women and society at large etc, perhaps I will write a book one day. One thing for sure, is that I first traveled to Colombia after living in Miami for an extended period of time. I also knew what my ‘type’ of girl was because I had already experienced two Colombiana girlfriends while living in Miami where Colombianas are everywhere, especially in Kendall and parts of South Miami.

    This is specifically for the Brothas who are concerned about Colombian racism. Racism does exist in Colombia as it does in many places where European invaders, explorers, and bandits have landed. Colombians however, will rarely admit to racism to a black person, at least not a Black American person. lol.

    They will tell you how many black people are in Colombia blah blah blah, Colombia has no racism like America blah blah blah and how they all have black relatives somewhere in their families blah blah blah, even when that is true, the racial politics does exist. I’ve found Colombian and other Spanish speaking parts of the world to be more classist than overtly racist. It just so happens that the people of color in these countries happen to be the people on the undesirable end of the ‘class scale’ based on economic disadvantage.

    In a general sense, that would make America, Canada, UK, Holland, France etc better places for blacks than Spanish speaking countries UNLESS you are from one of the aforementioned countries and therefore you are viewed essentially like the average ‘Gringo’. Don’t believe me, go to Youtube and enter “Cost of Living in Medellin , Colombia ” El Poblado”

    However if you are reluctant to traveling to any part of Colombia because of the color of your skin, then you are being a fool. ALL of the time that I’ve spent in Colombia has been along the coastal areas, and I’ve NEVER had any problems with getting action.

    The biggest problem is that hot female inventory is so abundant that you quickly lose interest with the chica that you have. Well at least that was my ADD problem. I would literally sit at a mall Castellana on the segundo piso where the escalator ends at a restaurant / internet cafe, and of 10 girls that came up the escalator on a Friday night a good 7 were worth a nod and a smile.

    Next step, make eye contact, smile, nod your head, and do the reverse wave with your hand. Next thing you know, your table of 1 or 2 becomes a table of 2 or 3 or 4. It’s just that easy.

    I am NOT tall, I am NOT blonde, I don’t have green or blue eyes, I am NOT white, I don’t flash money around like I’m rich!

    Because I don’t cook, I eat out a lot, I prefer not to eat alone, girls tend to like that no matter where you are in the world. Add a bit of charm, a classy fit look, broken but attempted Spanish, a bit of interesting conversation, and that could be a formula for success with Colombianas. If you happen to have spent anytime in Miami or Miami Beach all the better! Colombiana’s love to talk about, and day dream about Miami in my experience, that is if they haven’t been there. I’ve seen girls light up like Christmas trees at the thought of living in or traveling to Miami. They believe the hype from flashy American TV programming.

    Of all the countries that I’ve traveled to or lived in, I carry one rule, I give a smile and most of the times I’ll get a smile back. If i don’t receive a smile back, so what.. on to the next one. That’s just how I roll.

    My point to the brothas or any other clearly non white minority is, if you look for racism, I think you’ll find it ANYWHERE you go. I would AGREE that white men have more inherent advantages in Colombia, that’s just how the world is.

    It’s the same in Addis Ababa Ethiopia as it is in Colombia.

    But I’ve also experienced within my own time in Colombia, 2 white guys getting hustled and robbed because they operate on the basic principle that their money is their sole advantage.

    During the 1 year I that I lived in Cartagena 2 white guys that I knew very well got hustled hard. One a British Ex pat, had a live in ‘white’ Colombiana who drugged him and wiped him out financially after having lived with him for almost 7 months.
    Scary to know. But he was in his 60’s and she was in her twenties, and he was old enough in my opinion to know better. .As Mos Def would say..That’s how you get got!

    The other was a white Colombian from Medellin who actually lived in the States for 10 years before returning back to Colombia courtesy of a deportation order by the US Dept of Justice. His mistake was behaving like a Gringo in a club La Dolce Vida, frequented by tourist and expats in Cartagena.

    He rang my door buzzer at 4:30 am on a Saturday morning looking crazy and in his underwear, because he had gone out the night before and some prepago chica that he was trying to game at the club slipped something in his drink and he ended up with no clothes, no watch, no wallet, and severely hung over on an unknown chemical.

    Anyway, I’m planning another trip to Colombia for this year. First Medellin and then Cali, I might do 6 months in each region to better hone my Spanish skills and see whats good in those areas. I’m looking forward to some Cali Salsa and reconnecting with some old friends from the area that I’ve kept in touch with.

    While in Cartegena I’ve met several women from Medellin and they all tend to agree that my personality type and style would be well suited for Medellin. I’m not sure if this will be true, one thing I’ve noticed about Colombians is that no matter where they are from whatever city they are from is THE BEST. lol.

    One of my closest friends who happens to own a language school in Cartagena and happens to be from Medellin also told me that Medellin would be more to my liking.

    What I dislike about Cartagena is the constant heat and humidity which is worse than Miami. I also like book stores and Cartagena has a drought of book stores. I always found myself traveling to Barranquilla and spending the day in the book store at the mall. Not too much to do in Barranquilla, lots of pretty girls, friendly people and loud music on the weekends.

    More people speak good English in Barranquilla from my experience even though Cartagena is the recognized tourist trap.

    I even bagged a green eyed blonde their who worked at the Guess boutique. I had no clue she was interested until her gay co worker started talking to me and asking me what I thought of her, blah blah blah. That lasted about a month before the novelty of traveling back and forth from Cartagena to Barranquilla wore off and she wanted me to relocate to Barranquilla, which was out of the question at the time.

    Anyway- even though I had a gun pulled on me by a cab driver over the use of ‘air conditioning’ in the cab, I still regard Colombia as my favorite country in South America, though I’ll also visit Brazil after Colombia. Venezuela had it’s merits, but I feel more connected to Colombia because I spent more time there.

    Final consideration for guys traveling to solely bag chicks. DirkJohlnson had some good advice for those who are on limited schedules and just want action.

    A set of things I remember ALL Colombiana’s would ask me is (1) Where do I live in Colombia (2) How long am I staying in Colombia?

    That was pretty much how they were qualifying you for whatever. I think I made out better than most because I would always tell them that I was staying for at least a year or two to study Spanish. I was seen as less transient that way.

    Also a great place to meet chicks who are not on the lower end of the economic spectrum is to join a nice gym like Club Bodytech. Memberships can’t readily be afforded by those without some level of steady plata.

    Exciting times-
    David-

    • pretty good advise! Yo….you sound like a true pussy mongering “gringo”!

      • Nigel D says:

        Suup Sean,
        With all of it’s Problems, Colombia can be A LOT of fun for anyone Red – Yellow- Black- White. Definitely one of my favorite places. Downside… just too many happy hot chicks if you know where to go.

        I suppose my vice is happy hot chicks.

        If you go, do yourself a favor connect with someone who is from a barrio that is NOT within a tourist trap zone. Seek everyday hot girls who are not Pro’s, Visa whores, and hustlers and are just looking for a good time from someone different, in my opinion and experience represent the BEST opportunity for exciting times. They are EVERYWHERE. From the bus stops, the local shops, the malls etc.

        Most of these girls have NEVER traveled to many of the resorts or great places to visit within their own country, and would welcome an invitation and be AMAZING FUN and Companions.

        Go inside of the local neighborhoods to bars, clubs, and beer joints where they play crazy loud ass music, (often times classic 80’s music or the local hits. I heard Lots of Michael Jackson, Earth Wind & Fire, Phil Collins etc) and dance the night away.

        Places where 6 beers and rum might cost you a total of $6.00, (In Miami 1 beer would be $7.00 at a place worth going to-do the math) – where the people are super friendly and just normal.

        Where you can rent a nice 1 or 2 bedroom apartment in a local relatively safe barrio with wi fi for around $200.00 per month.
        ( I say ‘relatively safe’ because you will usually start hearing random gun shots late Friday or Saturday night)

        That’s the thing to do if you have extended time to actually travel.
        Happy Trails.

  79. Hey guys,

    i just simply want to know if you spend the night with a “regular” girl, do you offer her money? And if so, roughly how much?

    I’m the type of person/monger that doesn’t expect anything for “free”. But what I’m certainly trying to avoid are any misunderstandings.

    • Anyway you try..you end up paying for everything. And why wouldnt ya…unless your a cheap bastard that shouldnt be out mucking up the deal for a true “player” on a international tour! If your use to spending money on pretty women in CA then your getting a lovely bargin for the friendship.
      The come and go and most have to call their mom if they spend the night!

  80. Nigel D says:

    Dude if she’s a ‘Regular’ girl as you indicate, there’s not much to it in my opinion. I’ve never taken the direct prepago route with any Colombiana.

    What I have done is payed for weekend trips to places that I wanted to visit within the country. Beach towns, bars, clubs, restaurants local barrior cervetarias etc. Places that I did not want to travel to solo, or places that only a local would have awareness of etc. In that scenario I’ve funded the entire outing from taxis, meals, drinks, everything naturally. All with ‘regular girls’, and there are PLENTY of them around trust me!

    My spoken rule was upfront and direct, “when I invite you, you don’t have to come out of pocket, that’s just the way I am, it’s my invitation.” On that basis I got plenty of ‘regular girl’ action. I’ve never straight up offered a girl money
    for sex or companionship. I have nothing against it, It’s just not my style. I’ve had AMAZING times using that approach, and on the CHEAP in Colombia. But I was not on a limited typical tourist time schedule while in Colombia.

    If I were in your situation the way you describe it, I would simply hand the girl whatever amount of cash that makes you comfortable and regard it as ‘cab fare’, or “I had such a great time with you, I want you to buy yourself something nice”.

    That’s just how it plays out in my head based on your note, and that’s pretty much what I would do given your situation. Others probably have better strategies or experiences to share.

    Good luck-

  81. Mr Park says:

    I’m planning a trip to Colombia in September for my birthday. I’m a single male Asian 32 and I can’t wait to get there. I’ve lived in brasil for a short time and also visited the Dominican Republic. I live in NYC and this would be my first time there. If someone can help me out a little finding a place to stay, places to go etc I would greatly appreciate it. My email is hyopark07@yahoo.com thanks in advance.

  82. Amanda in Hawaii says:

    An interesting post! Dating dynamic posts are always one of my fave reads with travel articles!
    I realize it’s just one person’s perspective but it’s fun to hear about the experiences.

  83. On my way initially for a nite to medellin this weekend and ill be back for another round the following week, havent been there in a while, the whole thing is that im planning on getting crazy first at my hotel next to parque lleras hopefully its nice, the author made me laugh with the cell phone quote hilarious, hey anybody out there in medellin on friday nite 6/28 to chat for a while with some drinks, THERE ON ME, hey and if you know any gals the better, oh im 35 by the way normal looking.

  84. Excuse me, I´m from Medellín, I disagree with the first photo The classic paisa look. Hey, that´s not true. I dont like that men from outside the country see the paisa women.

  85. thanks David for answer me. :)
    what i think is that is really difficult to generalize about a typical paisa. If you go to a bar, maybe you will find with a kind of girls really different that if the girls if you go to a university.
    i can talk you about the women are around me, they do not wear like whores. They are friendlies and hardly workers. The problem is that the most tourist are looking for girls for having fun, and the go to bars and only can see that kind of girls.

    • I agree with Alex to a point. The best girls I’ve met, and by best, I mean best looking, most attractive, smart, hard working, naturally stunning, AND super duper NICE…not out to hustle you etc.. are in fact girls that I’ve met in School. At restaurants, and through vertical social connections.

      I’d say school and at Malls while shopping or hanging out. I’ve gone out with Colombianas who have actually absolutely refused to allow me to pay for dinner, when I extended the invitation.

      I do think that many people who have commented on this particular thread are people who are traveling or have traveled to Colombia on Limited Time, and with the explicit intention of Hooking Up. Tourist do this every day when they travel to key places like Miami, LA, New York, Sweden, London etc. They hit bars and nightclubs to hook up with people who are on the prowl. Colombia is no different, and I don’t think Colombians should be so touchy, sensitive or offended by it, it is what it is.

      If your friends are not at the clubs, bars being frisky, looking sexy and trying to hook up, good for them, But there are PLENTY of Colombianas who enjoy being frisky, looking sexy and trying to hook up.

      Things are quite different when you stay for extended periods of time and are living among locals and have genuine social networks which extend beyond the tourist traps and compressed time that tourist typically remain within the country. It’s a total game changer for a single guy.

      I’d like to see a photo of what Alex regards as a typical Paisa looking girl, perhaps it is unfair to generalize a Paisa look. I’ve met many girls from Medellin who are stunning and look nothing like the first photo. I’ve also seen random chicks from Colombia who do in fact have that exact look within the first photo. Obviously variations exist, I suspect the photo posted is indicative of the authors Paisa preference.

      My 2 cents-

      • Thanks Nigel D. I like to know about your point of view. You helped me to understand better what the blog refers. Now I agree with that. jajajaja

        • Nigel D says:

          No worries Alexa, glad to share my point of view. Feel free to post any pics of what you regard as the ‘typical Paisa look’.

          ;-)
          Peace! {Paz}

          • No Thrills says:

            Nigel D,
            Can you set up a blog and update it regularly? I would love to
            read your day-to-day exploits in Colombia with women,views, outlooks,opinions.
            Or maybe just update it here on this page for readers..
            We need to read your eBook; when’s it coming out? I’m serious. I’d read it.
            Please.
            Regards

          • Nigel D says:

            I appreciate your kind words No Thrills.
            Though I have considered creating a site dedicated specifically to Colombia & Venezuela specifically, (2 places that I I’ve lived full time in South America) I haven’t defined specifically a time frame. That is to say, I’m not a full time blogger and writing about Colombia etc is not my priority. I’m a business developer first and foremost and my monetary projects are where I currently devote my time.

            David and his guest contributors do a very good job on this blog covering a broad range of subject matters. In fact when I reviewed the table of contents of his ebook (which you should consider buying it’s beyond affordable) it appears quite holistic.

            I’m not sure if you are looking for something specific from me No Thrills, if so just let me know and I’ll help as much as I can, just be very specific because opinions and perspectives are as varied as fingerprints.

            Obviously you’ve read my other feedback on this blog and my perspectives are authentic and detailed. Colombia is a very special place for me despite the naysayers in my life who still give me shit on a daily basis about my affection for Colombia, but it is what it is. With it’s imperfections and excluding parts of Hawaii, Colombia is my preferential place for really enjoying life as a single guy.

            Peace!

          • Thanks for checking out my Medellin guide. If you ever interested, I’d be happy to publish any advice or stories you’d like to share as a guest post.

            You can just send me a message through the Contact page.

  86. the truth revealed says:

    Well, sad to read but very true, what you missed is the part where gringos are taken as fools, paying for everything.. of course these girls have one prepaid cellphone for you (so they can throw it away when you get very annoying) and a second smart phone with their normal contacts and really loved and interesting people.
    Let me say old friend, the point here is not how easy paisas girls are but how you gringos act like horses in heat when you see an attractive woman that you are very likely to pay for everything and get whatever the girls want for them until you leave the city.. once you’re done here, and you are back in USA, I bet some how your pocket starts hurting and you start regreting inside of your F-150 while you plan how to arrange another trip back here and see if you can find another common and boring (not interesting or educated) black long haired plastic girl that is expecting another common gringo that is willing to pay for whatever she wants.

    Best regards!

  87. I’m from Toronto and dated a Colombian woman in Toronto (tall with no fake boobs) but have never been to Colombia. Her général view was that the bulk of gringos going there are sketchy and cannot pickup at home and try to use their passport as some type of drawing card. How many places can you tell a women you’re staying in a hostel and not have her laugh at you? Why else would a 50 year old north American go there to find a 25-30 year old wife? Can you do that in the US or Canada ? Not a chance. Its just like the predators who go to Thailand or Cambodia. Its shameful to be honest. Sweden has gorgeous women also but you don’t see a bunch of guys going there trying to exploit women…its simply capitalizing on the economic disparity. I also don’t think that Colombian women are any more attractive than other countries.

    • I have to take your comment with a grain of salt because like you said, you haven’t been to Colombia yourself so you can’t form your opinion. Right now, you’re just going on her perspective. It’s impossible to generalize.

      There’s a HUGE difference between visiting or living in a country in part because you are intrigued by the women, and would like to either party with or date the women, and being a “predator.”

      I wouldn’t characterize any of my male friends as predators. They’re young men looking to date women in Colombia, just like any other country they’ve lived in (and many have lived in places outside of their home country). That’s not to say some men aren’t going to Colombia for the prostitution, but remember, it’s LEGAL here.

      It’s not a legal problem, unless the girl is under 18. It therefore becomes a debate on morality.

      Sweden is ridiculously expensive, which is why so few tourists can afford to go there. I’m sure the women are pretty, but I’ve also heard through friends that they’re quite cold in terms of personality. That’s one thing I appreciate about Colombian and many Latin women in general, their warmth.

      • Fair enough. Perhaps “predator” was a bit harsh. However, I was referring more to the older guys (i.e. north of 50) that are looking for a 25yr old — as was my reference to Thailand and Cambodia where it is rife. Its just feels sketchy. I’ve seen it in too many developing countries. A lot of these girls have fantasies that the gringo has a bunch of money, when if fact, many of them are living on a shoestring and have big student debts and/or mortgages.

        • Gotcha, and I agree. It feels sketchy to me too. I try not to worry about it, and mind my own business. As long as they’re not breaking any laws, I may disagree, but who am I to tell anyone how to live?

          It’s worth noting the age gap thing is not as big a deal in Colombia. Even the Colombian men tend to date/marry MUCH younger. From the women I’ve talked to and dated, they actually prefer it because the older men represent stability and greater economic means. They believe they’re less likely to cheat on them.

          In the USA, it’s mostly the rich or famous men that are going out with the women 20+ years younger. You see it all the time with rock stars and celebrities. Let’s face it, they’re using their status and wealth to cash in and date models they might not otherwise be able to date. I would too.

          • yep. you raise some good points, particularly regarding the age gap and the fact that in some countries, the women prefer it. I noticed the same situation in places like Russia and Ukraine, where women prefer a guy 5-7 years older, sometimes more. Obviously if you have a ton of cash, the situation can be more extreme. I guess with the very large disparity (ie. 60 to 20), you have to know its largely a financial relationship.

  88. thanks. good advise.

  89. I’m a native girl from medellin and some things of the blog are true . Actually , I laughed because most of the things written here aren’t true. First off , Gringos or foreigners are not ¨king¨ here in medellin or anywhere in Colombia. I like some foreigners but not all of them . it doesnt mean that if you are tall , blonde , with green or blue eyes you will be the sensation or all Colombian women will die for you… I have found some tall and blonde foreign guys not attractive at all. Also , I have found some foreign guys pretty hot . But dont think because you are a guy from abroad you could pick up every girl you want to . My sister is stunningly beautiful … slim , petite , dark hair and pretty face and she doesnt like foreign guys. she prefers more latin type ( tanned skin , dark eyes and hair) so you shouldnt generalize about gringobeing king over here because I have heard many of my friends saying she doesnt like them or she prefers latinos like my sister does. Here are a lot of hot guys too so dont think you foreign guys are in advantage because you are tall , white , blonde and with light eyes. actually , here are a lot of native white guys and tall guys as well. some of them have blue and green eyes too. not all guys are short or fat like I have heard some foreigners say. remember that our country are multi-racial and here are people with blonde hair and green or blue eyes too.

    About that all girl have prepaid phones. WRONG AGAIN!!
    Maybe , if the girl is from a lower strata she could have a prepaid phone but girls from upper strata have postpaid phones with datas and hundreds of minutes . I have enough minutes and text messages in my phone. I have an iphone . Dont be ignorant and think that all Colombian girls are poor people . that is something tha bothers me a lot that foreigners think that people from here is poor or are starving whent the truth is that here are a lot of wealthy people and most of them have more money than foreigners. period.

    • thanks for realistic poit of view…

    • So just curious to know if your sister and yourself like Asian guys??? When I was in Cuba I even got mistaken as a Latino..lol. My skin gets dark in the summer. And I have dark hair and dark eyes almost like a Latin guy..lol. Just curious if Asian guys get alot of Attention in Colombia. I know there are not alot living there. So maybe girls would like us more cause we are exotic and rare..lol.

      I have heard from other Asian guys that traveled to Colombia that there are many girls that are interested in them. Is this true? Your honest answer is much appreciated:) Thank You Susi. I hope to see you if I ever get to visit your beautiful country:)

      I have not decided yet, just worried about my safety.

  90. I am Latino living in jersey and never been in Colombia. My experience is that Colombian people in general are very welcoming. Women are really friendly and smart. Being gr info is a disadvantage because women know gringos are. In Colombia only. Because they can’t get laid in USA
    Please, stop talking about Colombian women like they are sex slaves. Go back to USA and jerkoff

  91. Thanks a lot for this advice. It is good to know that the women are open towards Gringos. i guess I have to improve my english when want to approach women in Medellin, or do they speak decent english? (I guess not).

    It is is motivating that you say that Colombian women make you know what they want. I am totally okay with getting rejected and I am totally okay if I approach a girl and I am simply not her type. There is nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is when women waste my time and beat around the bush.

    When I see those pictures i just want to book the next flight and go there. I have been to Thailand and some of the women there are gorgeous but the South american women definitely have their own charm.

  92. News flash ….. Luxury is the favorite hangout for “working girls” in Medellin.

  93. If you go for high end Women, they DEFINITELY try to run away from “gringos”, it looks nasty. If you go to so so places, sure, you can get lucky. So before jumping out, first ask yourself what kind of gringo and what kind of Women you like!

  94. afsierra28@hotmail.com says:

    I am from Medellin and the thing is like that, GRINGO = IDIOT
    Sorry if you are one of those.

  95. NevilleFlynn says:

    If you go to a disco you’ll or a bar, the girl who’ll let you know she wants your attention probably wants something different of what you really think. Those are easy girls, a bunch of freeloaders, who are behind your money, not your appeal, or just to “hangout”. As a Gringo you have way too much to know about Colombians, and its people, specially women.

    Classy, sophisticated women won’t even look at you, they won’t let you pay for their taxi or meal, and not even in hell they’ll let you know they are interested in you. You’re taking advantage of a bunch of girls with 0 iq, which i’m pretty sure they are abundant in any part of the world specially in USA.

    In retrospective, those men -like you- behind those type of girls has few to nothing of emotional intelligence, and only think with the “small head”, which clearly explains why this post is written the way it is.

    You’re far to be a king of nothing.

    FYI: The word gringo comes from: Greens go home, and we use it more often to refer to jerks like you. The other respectful, nice guys who come here to enjoy the country are just called visitors.

  96. Hi, u can not use this pictures here, I am in one of the pictures and u never met me so please don’t usa my picture to talk bad about the girls in medellin. If I go to a club this don’t say that i am the things that u say here.

    • All the photos have already been removed, and I apologize and hope there are no hard feelings.

      I realize that since the article was published in 2011, a lot of reader comments have been left, and some portray Colombian women in a negative light.

      That was never the intention of the article. We were just trying to highlight some of the observations foreign men notice when they first arrive in Medellin, and begin dating paisas. We realize what’s written here does not apply to all women from Medellin.

      I hope if you read the article, and not the comments, you can see what I mean.

      • Good Day Dave,

        Nigel D here, hope you are well since our last interaction. As you know I’ve had some of the BEST TIMES in my life in Colombia and I’ve shared some of them here on this thread, and I do still read your blog routinely even though Now I am in Asia and LOVING IT much Better than Colombia, aside from the Massive time zone Flip! lol.

        That being said, aside from the post from the Colombiana who claims that she appeared in one of the pics previously presented, and indicated displeasure of having her photo here, I find your reaction to her letter of REMOVING ALL of the PICS here REALLY excessive and a total buzz kill for the thread.

        Of course I don’t know the back story (if any) of how you were approached which could have had an impact on why you removed ALL of the pics.

        Of course it’s your blog, you are the boss, you can add and remove all content at your discretion for any reason you deem fit. But I have to tell you, this is the MOST balanced thread on dating and ‘Rules of the game’ that I’ve seen online anywhere for Colombia!

        The pictures that you originally displayed prior to removal FRAME the entire discussion and they were ALL appropriate because the pics visualized the common reality which all of us who have lived or traveled to Colombia for extended periods of time have experienced.

        Without those pictures Framing the discussion, this thread loses the appeal which made and continues to make this section of your blog one of the most popular and controversial on the subject matter.

        If ‘Manu’ was indeed featured in one of the pics and if this were my blog, out of courtesy to ‘Manu’, I certainly would have removed or edited HER pic.

        What I dislike in the letter that she posted as to WHY she wanted her pics removed. Her explanation is SHALLOW in my view, because it demonstrates that she hadn’t read the entire thread to recognize that this was not a thread bashing Colombianas or “talking bad’ about Colombiana’s as she suggested.

        The perspectives presented here encompassed real life experiences and opinions by real people about a very important subject matter, the perspectives encompassed the good and the bad uncensored!

        The commentors to your blog don’t always agree on every little thing, but the format is very democratic and the diversity of the opinions and feedback enhance the value and quality of your blog and add to the continued conversation which is in part fueling the international popularity of your blog.

        I for one would have NEVER commented on your blog had those original pics been absent from your site as I am a very VISUAL person. I suspect I am not the only contributor or reader to this thread who shares those same feelings. Removing those pics REALLY dilutes the appeal and the quality to this discussion.

        Anyway, its early here, the roosters are cock a doodle dooing and I just wanted to give you my perspective on your recent photo ‘censorship’ which I personally find excessive.

        Adios Dave-

        Looking forward to attending one of your ‘meetups’ when I return back to Colombia.
        Nigel D.
        ;-)

  97. Hey Dave love the article but I would like to know how are Black American males chances in colombia. I see you said White blue eyed Gringos get a lot of love but how bout the chocolate brothers. Love your site and I follow you on FB keep up the work.